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Can we say the obvious for a second?
Good decision. Everyone needs to be able to see this. It's important, especially in this climate.
Something this important, we all need to witness, no matter which way the verdict goes.
Except the people that need to watch it are going to refuse and call it corruption. And still have extremely strong, unmoveable, opinions about it.
Same as the Jan 6th hearing
They'll get their out of context and misleading soundbites from the right wind media overlords, which will only reinforce their blind faith in their lord and savior trump.
Anyone a big enough drunk to take a shot every time Trump, himself, tries to object?
Do you want to give everyone alcohol poisoning?!
I think drinking that many shot glasses of water would kill you, honestly
What if you take a drink every time he tries to object to his own defense? I'm pretty sure taking a shot when he objects to anything would kill even the most experienced alcoholic.
Maybe he'll just do like what he did in the debate with Hillary: "Wrong."
"ERECTIONJECTION YOUR JUDGESHIP! somethingsomethingorangewordsalad" - Trump
/sigh
Wait, does that even count?
They should add some twitch integration too, 10,000 bits and the defendant has to floss.
Fawx News: "Now back to continuing coverage of paint drying. Make sure to stay tuned because we have Hunter Bidens dick pics as well! Laptop! Biden Crime Family! NO! DO NOT TOUCH THAT DIAL! NOOOOOOOO!!!"
I hope he suddenly goes all sovereign citizen and handles his own defense.
He should. After all, doesn't he know more about the law than anyone? And he's a stable genius too. Sounds like he should save the money he'd spend on his lawyers and just handle his own defense. I'm sure he'd win easily in court, right? (Barely manages to contain laughter)
Sadly this will only be watched as justice porn for the left, the right won't even care.
Everyone likes justice porn in America. The OJ trial was one of the most watched TV events in history at the time.
I don't know about that. An awful lot of conservatives are bending over backwards to explain why Trump was justified in breaking the law multiple times. They certainly do care, and some people have even died over it. Remember the guy who tried to go after the FBIfield office in Cincinnati, OH?
This should 100% be televised. This affects us all. This was the attempted overthrow of our democracy and justice should not be hidden.
There is way more benefit then problem with this IMHO.
I’m wholeheartedly behind the WGA & SGA, but god bless Georgia for coming in clutch with content over the next year plus.
Wonder what sponsors they’ll have… Will the judge ask us to smash the like button?
Out-fucking-standing. I am absolutely going to watch this. It’ll be the first Trump footage I’ve voluntarily watched in quite a while.
I am not going to watch any of that.
When he was on the NPR news cycle five times a day I started yelling and cursing uncontrollably to the point where I was diving at the radio to turn it off or change the station so that I would not freak the fuck out.
It doesn't matter where Trump is. I don't want to be there. It is a defilement to view him.
Practice stoicism my friend.
Ppl on the left freaking out is exactly what they want.
Treat trump and the gop the same way you treat clowns...laugh at them.
It's the thing they fear the most...loss of narrative.
My word, that is delicious.
Free media coverage of anything Trump does tends to boost Trump's popularity, even if a normal person would see it as stupid or embarrassing. So I'm in two minds about this.
So we're clear, this is not the revolution
I wonder what Fox will find to run instead.
We now go live to San Francisco where a homeless person is probably gay and Hispanic.
This is going to backfire in a big way. Whole lot of people seem to think this will be justice porn or somehow convince his base of his criminality but it is going to do no such thing. According to one poll, the majority (77%) of likely GOP primary voters are already convinced the trial is "politically motivated", with only 8% more concerned about him attempting to overturn an election. You can take a look at some polling here, there are other even more troublesome results as well: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-poll-indictments-2023-08-20/
No matter how awful, contradictory, and ridiculous he will be in that court room, this is likely going to be a massive boon for Trump, and his followers are going to see it as the realization of their own fears of persecution. This man is an ascendant fascist leader, not the sad sack finally facing consequences that liberals so desperately want him to be, and the effect this will have on mobilizing his base to continue to escalate will be immense. These people do not give a single fuck about """law and order""" no matter how much they pretend they do, stop assuming they will just accept things when he is found guilty. They won't.
I'm just trying to help people realize how dangerous and precarious this whole situation is. People were laughing and making jokes when he first announced his candidacy, and kept on doing it right up to the point that he won the election. Don't make the same mistake again, because while yall are cracking jokes, him and his ghouls are hurting people. They are passing discriminatory laws, they are in the supreme court setting dangerous precedents and overturning inconvenient ones, and they are patrolling the streets looking for people to brutalize and throw in jail. They are committing hate crimes and becoming increasingly radicalized and mobilized.
Stop pretending this is entertainment or business as usual, it's not. I'm begging you to understand that the fascists are already here, and the longer they're underestimated the better their chances of seizing control.
This is going to backfire.
First of all, never try to get inside a conservative's head if you are going to come out with a loser defeatism attitude. 2nd, Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump will not have any control of the trial at all.
of likely GOP primary voters are already convinced the trial is "politically motivated"
That is the most important reason why the trial needs to be televised.
Stop pretending this is entertainment or business as usual, it's not.
Another reason why it is absolutely critical to have the trial televised. I can remember the Watergate TV hearings and the entire country was riveted by the seriousness of the proceedings. The Jan 6 House committee televised hearing were also riveting for everybody who watched them in full. It will be like that only with everyone watching. The very reason for televising the proceedings is so that everybody understands the seriousness.
Remember that Onion headline "man would die fighting to defend what he imagines the Constitution to be"?
Many modern conservatives are like that. They will bleat all day about laws, and yet have never spent 2 minutes even reading a Wikipedia page about them.
They'll believe whatever pundits tell them to believe.
Witch hunt? Unconstitutional? Politically motivated? Kangaroo court?
Not for one minute will any of those law and order loving, institution-protecting, facts not feelings, crowd consider that Trump is there because of real actual crimes he really did commit.
You are completely wrong. Why focus on idiots who won't change their mind no matter what? The important voter base are moderates and independents. If you are staunchly Democrat your vote does not matter. If you're Republican no matter what your vote does not matter. Sad but true. The people you're so worried about simply don't matter. If televising the trial convinces people who are on the fence then it's the right choice. They're just a small number of people.
How can they actually get jurors for this?
If the facts require the jurors to convict, there is no chance that this won't ruin their lives (if not significantly shorten them). Even before then, it's going to be a problem. His supporters have already declared and demonstrated that they are willing to use violence.
Thank you, but I'd sit in jail as long as necessary to not be on any of these juries.
How do you even find an impartial jury? I might be wrong but I was almost certain that an impartial jury is required to convict, which is why they always ask you about potential conflicts of interest when you attend jury duty. How many impartial jurors can there be at this point? Tbh, I'm not even sure I would trust an impartial jury with this case. To me, if you're claiming to be impartial then you're either lying, or you give zero fucks about politics and the people around you. Being impartial in this context has some really concerning implications about you.
Am I biased? Fucking absolutely and I hope he's found guilty.
Can I set aside my bias and only consider the evidence as presented? Also fucking absolutely.
There are plenty of people who care enough about the rule of law that would let a man they hate walk free. If you can't, perhaps you should be more concerned with yourself than the implications you ascribe to others who don't deserve it.
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I hope the writers are not on strike by then. Late night careers will be made from this.
Is this a new trend? like Johnny depp and Amber heard !? twitch ttv would melt if they added a 'court room' tab