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It just gets better and better y'all.
https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/30/deepseek_database_left_open/
I love how die hard free market defenders turn into fuming protectionists the second their hegemony is threatened.
Tale as old as capitalism.
It is effing hilarious. First, OpenAI & friends steal creative works to “train” their LLMs. Then they are insanely hyped for what amounts to glorified statistics, get “valued” at insane amounts while burning money faster than a Californian forest fire. Then, a competitor appears that has the same evil energy but slightly better statistics.. bam. A trillion of “value” just evaporates as if it never existed.
And then suddenly people are complaining that DeepSuck is “not privacy friendly” and stealing from OpenAI. Hahaha. Fuck this timeline.
It never did exist. This is the problem with the stock market.
That's why "value" is in quotes. It's not that it didn't exist, is just that it's purely speculative.
Hell Nvidia's stock plummeted as well, which makes no sense at all, considering Deepseek needs the same hardware as ChatGPT.
Stock investing is just gambling on whatever is public opinion, which is notoriously difficult because people are largely dumb and irrational.
Hell Nvidia's stock plummeted as well, which makes no sense at all, considering Deepseek needs the same hardware as ChatGPT.
It's the same hardware, the problem for them is that deepseek found a way to train their AI for much cheaper using a lot less than the hundreds of thousands of GPUs from Nvidia that openai, meta, xAi, anthropic etc. uses
You know what else isn’t privacy friendly? Like all of social media.
Capitalism basics, competition of exploitation
It's a shame that you can't copyright the output of AI, isn't it?
Trump executive order on the copyrightability of AI output in 3...
so? it won't have any effect on china, because last i checked, us laws apply only in the us
If these guys thought they could out-bootleg the fucking Chinese then I have an unlicensed t-shirt of Nicky Mouse with their name on it.
The thing is chinese did not just bootleg... they took what was out there and made it better.
Their shit is now likely objectively "better" (TBD tho we need sometime)... American parasites in shambles asking Daddy sam to intervene after they already block nvidia GPUs and shit.
Still got cucked and now crying about it to the world. Pathetic.
Intellectual property theft for me but not for thee!
the Chinese realised OpenAI forgot to open source their model and methodology so they just open sourced it for them 😂
DeepSeek’s specific trained model is immaterial—they could take it down tomorrow and never provide access again, and the damage to OpenAI’s business would already be done.
DeepSeek’s model is just a proof-of-concept—the point is that any organization with a few million dollars and some (hopefully less-problematical) training data can now make their own model competitive with OpenAI’s.
Deepseek can't take down the model, it's already been published and is mostly open source. Open source llms are the way, fuck closedAI
Right—by “take it down” I just meant take down online access to their own running instance of it.
I feel like I didn't appreciate this movie enough when I first watched it but it only gets better as I get older
"Now" is always a good time to rewatch it & get more out of it!
It's a true comedy that still holds up. I honestly thought for years that Mel Brooks had something to do with it, but he didn't. It's so well crafted that there are many layers to it that you can't even grasp when watching as a child. Seeing it as an adult just open your eyes to how amazingly well done it was.
I could do without the whole Billy Crystalizing of large portions of it though.
Corporate media take note. This is how you do reality-based reporting. None of the both-sides bullshit trying to justify or make excuses, just laughing in the face of absurd hypocrisy. This is a well-respected journalist confronting a truth we can all plainly see. See? The truth doesn’t need to be boring or bland or “balanced” by disingenuous attempts to see the other side.
I will explain what this means in a moment, but first: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha. It is, as many have already pointed out, incredibly ironic that OpenAI, a company that has been obtaining large amounts of data from all of humankind largely in an “unauthorized manner,” and, in some cases, in violation of the terms of service of those from whom they have been taking from, is now complaining about the very practices by which it has built its company.
Yes get f*ed you creedy bastards.
Thank you China.
No for real - it's either EU or frigging china that helps us with these oligarch overlords
Regardless of how OpenAI procured their data, I'm absolutely shocked that a company from China would obtain data unauthorized from a company in another country.