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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/3804525

Wow, things have changed since I last posted in /c/fediverse. Here are the top five most active instances based on monthly active users:

  • lemmy.world: 19516
  • lemm.ee: 3779
  • lemmy.ml: 2970
  • sh.itjust.works: 2355
  • feddit.de: 2293

Source: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

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[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm also impressed by feddit.de presence, Fediverse culture seems strong in Germany

[–] Cubes@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone from Germany care to comment on why this is? Y'all seem to have such a large presence on here compared to others

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm from another nation-oriented instance that has an outsized presence, right next to Duitsland.

My guess is:

  • Germany is a big, populated country
  • People from DACH also gravitate towards feddit.de
  • The culture kinda gives itself to the project
  • The NL and the EU are the main funders of Lemmy
  • The government itself is embracing the Fediverse
[–] nachtigall@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think one reason is the large number of German users on the Internet. With around 100 million speakers, German is the second most spoken native language in the West after English.

According to the application texts, many users seem to come from various podcasts. We are also "endorsed" by one of the largest German-language subreddits on its front page (r/ich_iel). Our users have also started to watermark their memes, which occasionally attracts new users. Feddit also made it into an article in a popular IT magazine (heise).

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~Wait, isn't French second with 210k?~~

~~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Europe#List_of_languages ~~

Sorry, misread, you are correct about native speakers!

[–] lukini@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is Latin America not the western world? That would add another 200 million or so Spanish speakers.

[–] brunox@feddit.cl 3 points 1 year ago

Is Latin America not the western world?

We have too much melanin to join the club.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't Spanish speakers on their own link agregator, https://www.meneame.net/ ?

[–] lukini@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No idea. But they said "German is the second most spoken native language in the West after English" whereas the wikipedia article is on Europe, so that would exclude Latin America if it's part of the west. I believe if they are included, they absolutely dwarf the number of German speakers.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ohhh that's going to piss off Greek Nazis. The fascist Junta back in the days was all in on "we're western we're the source of everything western we are the west", not to mention "Turks are filthy pigs we have nothing in common with them", meanwhile, the music.

[–] nachtigall@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

It's a good question though why there are so few Spanish speakers here (or at least visible).

[–] kugel7c@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Generally internet culture In the Dach region is very active and forward looking, and potentially ideologically aligned with the idea of Fediverse and generally FOSS software and privacy. E.g. for Wikipedia language share German got overtaken by Spanish only within the last 5 years slipping from 2nd to 3rd suggesting some early adopter and internet participation higher than the norm.

Subjectively a lot of people here have uneasiness with big tech, and are relatively informed about alternatives.DACH on Reddit was also very big, and very ideologically opposed to API changes and general Reddit corpo behaviour. Subjectively again Dach and ich_iel felt like home when I joined, essentially like the Reddit culture I was used to, just with a little more progressive views across the board.

Also I suspect that German language speakers are fairly active within the English speaking parts of the internet in general, while Spanish and French as well as other non Germanic languages seem to have more disdain for English language content and sites, Germans and Dutch as well as Nordics are very comfortable with English as a common language.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for your feedback!

[–] rizoid@midwest.social 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I wonder how many of the accounts on world are ones that are just left for dead as people moved around to other instances. I myself was day one on world but the outages became too much.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago

Probably a lot. I expect LW to go down to something around 17k, maybe even a bit less

[–] Cocsam@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I was also on world but switched to lemm.ee when they defederated hexbear.

[–] megane_kun@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Made my first Lemmy account on Lemmy.world on the first weekend of June, but the outages of late June/early July pushed me (with some encouragement from others who've already made the jump earlier) to make a lemm.ee account. It was only supposed to be an alt, to be used when Lemmy.world is unusable, but the Meta fiasco then made me decide to make lemm.ee my main.

@rizoid

Count me as one, tried to setup 2Factor Auth, but it wouldn't take the number from my token generator and didn't generate any error message.

@Blaze

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

I've been on sh.itjust.works since day one of my Lemmy existence, because shit just works.

It also doesn't overdo it with defeds (beehaw) and isn't run by tankies (lemmy.ml) or nazis (exploding-heads).

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml doesn't take new registrations... Unless that changed

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

Seems like it did change

[–] gridleaf@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Of course it's the one instance where I accidentally capitalized my username and can't change it to a lower case letter.

[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

Who knew Lemmy was so big in Estonia?

[–] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, lemmy.ml is French ?

[–] poVoq 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they are just hosted in the OVH data center in France.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, aren't the lemmy dev and lemmy.ml admins French?

[–] poVoq 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No. One is from Austria and the other lives in Canada.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Canadians are half french.

[–] abff08f4813c@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty impressive! Wonder where kbin instances fit in those stats.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kbin is pretty nice, but sometimes it feels like it is... a bit too nice? Clean UI, better uptime, but also seems a little bit more closed. Makes me feel a little paranoid. Is there a corporation running it?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lemmy.world is hosted in the USA? I wonder how long til it gets raided by the feds

[–] poVoq 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that is an artifact of their Cloudflare use. The main server is AFAIK in a Hetzner data center in Helsinki, Finland.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So its just proxied by the feds

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago

It's not, it's in Europe

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would it be raided by the feds?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

? I don't see why reason why it would? Do you want to actually explain your reasoning?