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[–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 260 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

His plane has crashed and he's on the passenger list, but it's not proven yet that he was on the plane. He's the person, who faked his death in the past.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It seems like oddly coincidental timing that Russia also officially relieved Surovikin as head of the airforce today (he still hasn't been seen since the mutiny): https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/23/russia-removes-sergei-surovikin-as-head-of-aerospace-forces

Not saying he's definitely dead, but I doubt this is him faking his own death so much as him slipping an assassination attempt if he's alive.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes. The general who the Kremlin said was "resting." Nothing ominous about that.

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[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Agreed, coordinated take down of Prigozhin and his allies.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I heard it played out exactly like the opening scene from Dark Knight Rises, too.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

i want to get a hug from Tom Hardy too.

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[–] Smite6645@lemmy.dbzer0.com 167 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Impressive Russia was able to push an entire plane out of a high rise window.

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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 94 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, am I reading this right that the plane was shot down by russian air defence? If this is backed up at all by anything like a russian source, then this will just further enforce option that russia can not be trusted to do anything it says and that putin is weak and threatened (both are true but I thought the kremlin would at least try to say/show otherwise).

How does russia keep messing up this bad? I am constantly shocked and awed.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If this is backed up at all by anything like a russian source

The Guardian is reporting this:

The cause of the crash was not immediately clear, but Prigozhin’s longstanding feud with the military and the armed uprising he led in June would give ample motive to the Russian state for revenge. Media channels linked to Wagner quickly suggested that a Russian air defence missile had shot down the plane.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/aug/23/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-drones-downed-moscow#top-of-blog

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[–] 2Xtreme21@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was only a matter of time…

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What's the opposite of SurprisedPikachuFace.jpg?

[–] GombeenSysadmin@feddit.uk 25 points 1 year ago

I believe it’s “SurprisedPikachuFace.jpg”

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[–] EphemeralSun@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've never seen tankies and libs ever so united in celebration.

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We from neither are also pretty whelmed by this turn of events

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[–] eyy@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a disappointing guy. The least he could have done was take out Putin before he died.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm fully expecting Russian media to explain how those evil Ukranians sneaked a missile battery or a fighter jet into Moscow airspace and shot down a plane that just happened to contained Putin's mortal enemies.

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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Plane crash" lol

They literally blew his nazi loving ass out of the sky.

[–] Pantrygheist@programming.dev 27 points 1 year ago

Well the plane did crash against the missiles sent towards it.

[–] Emu@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm loving all the tankie tears in here. They don't know who to support. LOL. I love how ruZZia is slowly eating its own tail and destroying itself, just typical of a fascist state. Slava Ukraini! Slava NATO!

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[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seems like Putin may have held a grudge after all.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe frustrated after India did what his lot couldn't.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nonsense. India and ruzzia both made it to the moon. The ruzzians just did it more aggressively.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Their mission could be said to have greater impact.

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[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Olympus@feddit.uk 41 points 1 year ago

I am shocked I tell you. Who could have predicted such an accident

[–] what_is_a_name@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

When it’s hard to toss a man out of a window. Or shoot or poison him. Just down his plane. Easy.

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[–] Echo71Niner@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Never discount that a deal was reached and this was their way or his way of going in retirement with a new identity - faked death.

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[–] HuddaBudda@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Only thing I am seeing on this is that two of Wagner's private jets were in the air, and one crashed over St. Petersburg while taking off from Moscow.

The other jet that belongs to him turned around and landed in Moscow airport after losing contact with the first. Which is pretty strange.

It is assumed that The leader Prigozhin and his 2nd in command were supposedly on board. As Russia state media is claiming they are dead.

However, Russia State Media has been lying quite a bit though this war, so it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

As of now ~~7~~ 10 bodies have been found.

However, just day's earlier, Prigozhin was seen in Africa as if "announcing their services" to a developing situation. So why did he suddenly end up in Moscow? The one place he knows he isn't safe?!

Edit:
2:24pm
Wagner's media is also claiming they both died.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

He has been flying around Russia quite a bit since the coup, clearly he thought he was safe.

[–] Olifant@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do I have to point out that this title is misleading? Don't get me wrong, I'd be glad if it were true... one less child killer roaming the world but if you read the article it hasn't been confirmed by western sources he was on that plane.

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[–] cybermass@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 year ago

I'm surprised it took this long

[–] Gnubyte@lemdit.com 21 points 1 year ago

Ah yeah the guy who opposed Putin

Yeah surprise he's dead

[–] Kimmel@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I won't shed a tear for Prigozhin and his gang but I haven't heard a single person speak about the uninvolved crew members of the plane who also got killed with this.. poor souls

[–] Emu@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who cares? They were his own private planes. These people knew who they were transporting and getting paid for it while Ukraine burns. They are part of his war crimes as well.

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[–] diffuselight@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

People seem awfully quick to accept the narrative - it seems to me this would be the easiest way for him to disappear on his own terms.

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[–] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id 17 points 1 year ago

Special crashing plane operation.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

At the same time, Grey Zone reported that a second business jet owned by Prigozhin had landed safely in the Moscow region.

Perhaps not gone.

However from memory they shot down some air force stuff on their way up during the mini mutiny, so I could see the Russian Air Force having it out for him.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago
[–] rr7@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is a conventient "accident"!

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shooting a plane down with missiles isn't even a pretend accident.

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[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 15 points 1 year ago

The article doesn't mention which agency is responsible for the murder of 10 people and what are the expected sentences for the murder

[–] seapat@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But did the plane have windows?

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

It'll be interesting to see if the Wagner Group will now fall in line or if Putin just poked a hornet's nest.

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