I want to live in the timeline where things Bernie sees actually come true.
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If it weren’t for Hillary and the DNC being corrupt, Bernie would have destroyed trump in 2016. I know so many people where I was living in middle America that flipped from Bernie to Trump.
I wasn't in middle America, but experienced the same thing. I still don't understand it. Is it just populism? If so, not good. I definitely shed friends in 2016.
It's because Trump advocates for change. Now it's not good change but he's definitely not a fan of the status quo, which gets you votes when the other guy is a Democrat centrist beholden to status quo-loving corporate donors.
I would argue that the change he advocates for is in the direction of the worst parts of status quo. The unbridled capitalistic endeavors of the rich, specifically. Very different than Bernie Sanders.
That's true, but voters who are uneducated or simply don't care about politics will see what he's selling and think he's at least better than the DNC's "why would you want change? Everything is fine" nonsense.
So it really does just boil down to populism for some folks, then? That's hard, thanks for posing it this way.
Populism boosted by new media (internet) vs. lobbyism striving to maintain status quo.
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Bernie can read the room. These other fuckers very much less so.
I'd step back onto the streets with Bernie at the head again. A small part of me still holds that hope from 2016.
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The others can read the room too; they’re just in an entirely different room.
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I feel like they can just choose not to because wheres the money in that?!
Yes he can. I am happy he still has a voice.
Word is, when Bernie first saw the news of the murder, he said, "Fuck yes."
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Mass movements can do lots of things, but we can’t even get a majority of people to vote…
We can get a majority of those that do vote to vote for Trump so I am not that hopeful.
Because people don't feel represented in the current FPTP voting-system, which to be fair, was designed by wealthy romans to benefit wealthy romans.
I can't even get a plurality of people to agree that we should have a national strike.
As it turns out, you only need like around 5% of the population to start a revolution (if even that amount). Revolutions have been started with even fractions of a percent.
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We've had several mass movements about it over the past 15~20 years, the only thing that has worked so far is lead poisoning.
Fuck it, i think Luigi’s method is gonna be more effective.
What's easier, motivating hundreds of thousands of people to get out and protest, or letting a few moderately motivated people take direct action?
Not protest. Y'all need at least a general strike to have a shot at doing something. That or found/get behind a third party and kill the DNC.
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I healthcare insurance companies need to become extinct.
You heard it from Bernie. Sharpen those pitchforks.
Good interview, good vision. Should have been Bernie.
This country needs to have a mass bowel movement and flush that shit down the drain.
Give it a try Bernie, maybe if you say it someone will listen.
Mass movement, movement of mass, close enough.
I wish we would see a movement like this in Canada when it comes to grocery giants like Loblaws
Loblaws got a parastic CEO and y'all got school shooters?
Might resolve itself at some point but who knows
No way to tell tbh
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He is not wrong lol
But when I say the same solution I get banned from communities for being a "coward" and "copaganda."
I think if Bernie suggested murdering all the CEOs he'd get banned from his communities, though.
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Yes, yes it can.