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False dichotomy. Doesn’t have to be one or the other. It can be “more” under one party than with another.

How is it that SO MANY people literally can’t see past a false dichotomy logical fallacy? I swear every other fucking comment is like “Yuhh WELL it wouhda been the same under the LIBS” like some sort of “gotcha”.

The amount of people that desperately need a course in basic informal logic is beyond astounding.

Appreciate you clarifying. I have a better understanding of your views than I did before.

We seem to disagree on what the use of “force” constitutes exactly. In my opinion, having someone have to choose between what most would regard as basic amenities or working as cheap labor for some large conglomerate is considered force.

But, that’s my opinion. And you’re entitled to yours. I’m glad you could explain your position more clearly so that I could understand opposing viewpoints.

You’re making the following statements, lmk if this is inaccurate:

-Involuntary servitude is not considered slavery, but rather a punishment.

-Involuntary servitude is OK as long as it’s used on prisoners (those who have been convicted of crimes).

Inference made: Constitutional protections and rights do NOT apply to those going against the rule of law.

Questions for you:

-If involuntary servitude isn’t considered slavery, then what would you consider slavery to be?

-Is this a form of punishment that helps to reform and correct those deemed currently unsuitable for society (without going into the meaninglessness of Orwellian naming conventions, they are called the “Department of Corrections”, aren’t they?)

-Do you think the rule of law always corresponds with ethical standards?

-I always like to ask myself the following: Who stands to benefit from allowing slaver- I mean, “involuntary servitude” to continue to be allowed? Who stands to benefit from all this cheap labor?

I’m curious as to your answers here.

I’m American. I’m so disappointed in my fellow Americans. And I’d wager around half of us feel similarly disgusted by these results.

Just know not all of us voted for this fascist. I have been trying to organize more and get my friends to organize against this. Clearly civil disobedience is needed, so I think organizing and donating to organizations that support anti-fascism would help.

Ah yes, the ol’ “if I don’t know something, then it MUST be X” argument.

Substitute X for whatever ya like! Demons, ghouls, demon ghouls…the possibilities are endless!

TF you on? Just because there weren’t immediate, drastic regime level changes doesn’t mean they went “exactly nowhere”.

There have been many changes at smaller levels not being reported in mainstream western media. Public pressure called for MANY local officials to step down along with changes in law that have already started effecting everyday life, and at least in Thailand, some pretty major changes in how public officials are held accountable via more expansive auditing channels, thereby increasing transparency.

Not everything is a fucking hollywood movie wherein you have some Hunger Games style uprising against the elite.

In fact, it’s fucking insulting hearing people who haven’t an ounce of global exposure beyond whatever 2 or 3 media sources they shove their heads into saying “those protesters got nothing accomplished”.

Never let anyone tell you protesting doesn’t work.

Tf is this shit

I’m a giant media conglomerate.

I have two facts that I intend to share in a neutral manner (and, for the case of this hypothetical, we will assume that “sharing knowledge in a 100% completely neutral, fact-based manner” is even possible).

I will call these Fact A and Fact B.

During the Super Bowl, I denote 30 seconds of airtime to Fact A, and denote only 5 seconds of airtime to Fact B.

Question: is this propaganda?

Can’t wait till AI can just learn and utilize my consciousness on my behalf. That way I don’t need to exist.

Bruh you do understand House Repubs were the ones who passed the bills that prevented Biden from stopping arms to israel right?

Also false dichotomy. Just because one side is “pro-something” doesn’t mean the other side is automatically the opposite.

I mean it’s possible yeah. But the point is that the professor should know this and, hopefully, modify the instructions for those with this specific accommodation.

Ideally, absolutely. That’s what makes the hallmarks of a great scientist.

In practice, institutionalized science can be just as dogmatic and closed-minded as some of the worst religions.

I have had advisors/coworkers/management straight up ignore certain evidence because it didn’t fit their preconceived views of what the results “should be”. This doesn’t make the process of science objective anymore when people are crafting experiments in ways to fit their views, or cherry picking data that conforms to their views.

And you would be surprised at how often this happens in very high-stakes science industries (people’s lives are at stake). It’s fucking disgusting, and extremely dangerous.