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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Am I the only one who hates this? I mean, it's fine as an option, but just let me swipe my debit card or pre-pay in cash for a certain number of KW/h.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I saw a very good argument about supporting physical cards. Among other reasons:

  • You’re renting an EV and don’t want your credit card associated with the car just to be able to charge.
  • You’re traveling a distance with others and want to pay to “fuel up” once during the trip.
  • You use different credit cards at different times based on rewards, interest rate, etc.

Plug-and-charge certainly can be convenient, but it can also be incredibly inconvenient in some non-zero number of situations.

[–] m_f@midwest.social 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Cards are required for federal funding:

The new standards will require that all stations receiving federal funding allow payment by credit card.

Requiring allowing cash would also be nice, but given the current state of charging infrastructure, it would be somewhat hard to do. Sometimes there's no clear way to get a hold of anyone in-person if something is wrong with the charger. Though maybe charging stations should be pushed towards that anyways.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Requiring allowing cash would also be nice

What fraction of the population still use cash? Most people I know don't even bother carrying it anymore.

[–] m_f@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

There's reasons to keep cash around. It's used by disadvantaged people or people without bank accounts, i.e. people that need it really need it. It's a physical object that you own and can't be deleted in a database by a malicious government. It's also resistant to tracking, and allows things like paying for products in a legalized state when it's illegal federally.

Most people can live their lives right now without worrying about any of that, but we'll see what the next 4 years brings

[–] Starfighter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I feel like this could end in the relevant xkcd way. (Yes its Standards)

[–] pageflight@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

My first thought too, though I'm hopeful there's nothing too established yet so a new standard can gain dominance.

[–] pageflight@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Members include Chargepoint, EA, Tesla, Rivian, Ford, and flo, among others. Seems like a good list.

Surprised to see Shell on there, I guess they're serious about getting into charging.