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[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 3 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

Why aren't you using ublock origin like a rational adult?

[–] ngn@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

the biggest mistake of humanity was (and still is) javascript

[–] Halosheep@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Algorithms

Algorithms? On my website? It's more likely than you think!

[–] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Are Temu the ones who say "pretend you're a billionaire" or something but their ads always have the most bizarre, undesirable-looking, nasty, cheap, plastic things in them?

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 5 points 2 hours ago

Yep. That's the ones. Or really pornographic or absurd. Cause buying more makes you feel like you have control of your life when you can buy a new shirt that dissolves when you wash it because you can't afford to take a day off to walk around a park.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Ad-blocker dedectors

buy crap you don't needed

Inrelevant information

SO MANY ADS, INRELEVANT INFORMATION, TRACKERS

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

For what is worth, I have yet to see a temu ad

[–] generaledelsud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It's called ublock origin and no script and one other add-on I have on icecat that blocks third-party connections. You guys can use my searxng if you want. https://liberopersempre.live/searxng

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Yeah but you get it all 1000 times faster and mum can still use the phone at the same time

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Reeeeeaalllllllyyyy putting on the rose tinted goggles, here...

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I remember clicking on a website and getting ABSOLUTELY BOMBSRDED WITH NEVERENDING POPUPS OF HARDCORE PORN PICS AND SOUND and my parents were behind me, and you just panic reboot the computer.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

It's funny because I definitely remember this happening while using Netscape Navigator to access our Prodigy-peovided internet.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah that's not how I remember the early Internet.
More like gifs everywhere, wild colours, you have to have that fancy html marquee! And terrible layouts, because aligning divs is difficult.
Good times

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 41 minutes ago

Why deal with float when you can use a table?

[–] hinterlufer@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

don't forget autoplay video and music

[–] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

Landing pages, too. Often with a corny Shockwave animation.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

divs were added in the late 90's.... that is not what I'd call early internet

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, it may be subjective, but Internet was open to public in '93, and divs were specced in '97.
It was more of a joke anyway. The layouts were often tables long after divs if I'm not mistaken

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, definitely subjective, but to me the early days of the web were before HTML 2 - so up to 1995.

And yeah, so many tables for a long time... Mostly because it was a bit messy to work with and had limitations, not to mention browser support requirements and a pretty fast moving sets of specs...

It was fun though.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Can we please not destroy the word algorithm? It's such a nice word....

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think the best way to make the Internet less sh*tty is to get away from Google search.

I like the SearX search engine. It gives old-school, relevant search results, not google ranked ones.

https://search.inetol.net/

It's also spread out over many separate instances, so you can pick the one that best suits your search needs:

https://searx.space/

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I switched to DuckDuckGo a while back and even that was beneficial. I can always tell when I'm on a different machine and I forget to switch the default search... It's wild how fast they've fallen.

These days I setup ollama with open webui to host my own ai. Then you can connect Searxng to that and have the AI search the web for you and return no nonsense results.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You are the millionth visitor to this site!! Click here to claim your prize now!

Let's not fool ourselves, adverts were always there and intrusive, remember those hotbars that your parents would have 100 of installed somehow? Sure things are worse, but they were never perfect.

[–] Schal330@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

Sure, but we had Bonzi Buddy too. These days the best we can hope for is some AI that tells us to eat rocks.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 hours ago

Don't forget cookie settings notifications and a pop up asking for you to subscribe to an email newsletter.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 83 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Eh....This is a little rose coloured glasses. Anyone else remember the pre-adblock era of umpteen pop-up ads?

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I remember using internet in mid to late 90s and there were no ads, maybe OP means that period?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 38 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

A crummy history of ads on the internet:

Starts out mostly used in formal fields and universities. Very usable!

Businesses get on board and start the horrible ad infestation, leading to scammers and popup hell duw to misuse of a feature.

Ad blockers start to reign in that shit, and the better browsers kill the popup infestation at the source. Pretty darn usable at this point, except for internet explorer.

Google, an ad company, decides to make a browser so they can do all the malicious advertising and tracking on the backend.

uBlock Origin is too effective at blocking the browser based tracking and advertising so google decided to do the manifest 3 or whatever that bullshit is called to openly force ads onto users.

Based on history, I expect chrome to die a slow death due to the backlash from the manifest crap, but could be wrong since people are apparently fine with ads being forced into streaming services.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

I think the difference is that there is not really a Netflix-without-the-ads alternative for the same price. And if you are willing to pay a bit more, well, you can just pay for the higher tier of Netflix without ads.

With browsers on the other hand, it's all free with virtually no barrier to switching. So I think people will defect away a lot more quickly when a browser starts to worsen in quality (especially since Chrome doesn't have Daddy Microsoft to force users to use it by default)

[–] Sergio 24 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Businesses get on board and start the horrible ad infestation

There were a couple years where businesses were "entering cyberspace" and still trying to figure it out. Mostly this involved static webpages, since they saw the web as a kind of yellow pages. i.e. a business' web page was their ad.

people are apparently fine with ads

It amazes me how accepting most people are of ads. I suspect Google's going to win, and their ultimate contribution to humanity will be forcing ads into everything.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Why google became the dominate search engine in the first place was because every other search engine was an ad infested nightmare fuel.

There is a limit of shit that people will put up with. Google is pushing that limit hard right now. Which is why I no longer use it.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Partially. Not really. Page Rank instantly obsoleted every other search algorithm in existence. Nobody was able to get high quality results right at the top so consistently. The ad-free part was a bonus, at least for a while.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

People are accepting of ads because ads are literally everywhere. A world without ads would be very strange indeed!

Every logo that exists and every product that has its own name/brand printed on it is an ad. Every product name in a catalog or simple list is an ad.

A world without ads would be like hundreds of years ago when you could buy soap that just looked like soap with no labels and no packaging at all. When the only food you purchased was bare produce/meat (or the whole animal). But even then any assembled/manufactured product would have some sort of "maker's mark".

I mean, how long have humans been branding cattle? That's the original use of that term!

[–] Sergio 3 points 5 hours ago

That's an excellent point. Hundreds of years ago, if you wanted to recomment the product of a particularly skilled soapmaker or farmer, you'd say "Jo made that", and maybe you could point to Jo's logo on the product so your friends knew how to recognize it. So the signifier of quality (the brand) pointed to the signified of a quality product. But now the signifier has become disentangled from the signified: the advertisements and marketing campaigns promote brand loyalty even if the product becomes worse through inferior ingredients or shrinkflation. Because of this, the signifier is presented to us when we do not want to see it.

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago

A logo's very different from what I would consider an "ad". I don't mind logos existing, but anything pushed in my face is horrible and I hate it.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

It amazes me how accepting most people are of ads. I suspect Google’s going to win, and their ultimate contribution to humanity will be forcing ads into everything.

People just eat up 'personalized' things so whoever coined 'personalized ads' was an evil genius.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 20 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (7 children)

pop-up ads? Ha... try pop-UNDER ads.

also can't have ads when there is no javascript to begin with. Just static content.

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[–] simple@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Not to mention the internet wasn't as secure as it is now. There was lots of malicious code everywhere. Oh, and if you write a typo in any website's name there was a 50/50 chance you'll be redirected to porn.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 5 points 7 hours ago

There's vastly more malicious code now than there was back then. Every company that has an online presence is constantly under attack. Constantly. There isn't an IPv4 address that exists that isn't scanned and have an attempt at hacking performed within seconds of being connected.

Not only that but today's malicious code is much better at what it does with hundreds of amazing features and methods of branching out using different attack methods. Today's malware is so good it updates itself very carefully/as secretly as possible so that some old compromised machine that no one thinks about anymore can become the next vector of attack inside your network.

All it takes is one active vulnerability

Keep all your shit up to date, people! When was the last time you checked your router to see if it had updates? Hmm‽

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

Missed the half-dozen boilerplate SEO sites that scraped the most generic and unhelpful information possible that feature links to whatever barely tangential software or product they might be selling.

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 29 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Also:

Endless redirects that attempt to keep you on the site when you want to nope right out and click the back button

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

Idk about chrome but ok Firefox you can right click to go backer

[–] riskable@programming.dev 8 points 7 hours ago

Trying the back button to get out of an ad infestation? You get a new ad! Trying again? Believe or not, straight to another ad!

[–] serenissi@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Apart from usual ubo, reader mode and friends trained eyes are very effective content filter. We all can glance on a search result page or an article and immediately know if it's content or low effort craps.

Stay out of mainstream social media, stop consuming 'feeds'. Stay in the realms of personal sites, blogs and sane link aggregators/rss to keep mental peace of not having to filter garbage with eyes everyday.

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