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Summary

Donald Trump allies, including Tucker Carlson and Laura Loomer, are accusing Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of orchestrating a “coup” against Trump’s agenda by scheduling early Senate GOP leadership elections.

Carlson, on social media, urged his followers to support Florida Senator Rick Scott as the only candidate aligned with Trump, warning that other candidates oppose Trump’s policies.

Loomer criticized Republicans for not addressing McConnell’s move sooner, suggesting that calls for party "unity" have enabled this alleged attempt to undermine Trump’s incoming administration.

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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 192 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Everything's a goddamn coup with these people.

Scheduling legislative leadership elections at an allowed time is a coup against a guy who is currently not in office?

K.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

It's only a coup if it's against them. If they're orchestrating ir, it's "being patriotic."

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 83 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Except January 6th, apparently

[–] Tidesphere@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago

The goal is to use the word coup often so that the word loses its punch, that way when an actual coup happens people will just shrug when it's reported and think it's just a minor occurrence.

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[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I assume holding the vote early is so incoming MAGA senators don't get a say.

[–] _bcron_@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's so he can set some terms such as blind ballots, which really helps republicans align with democrats in choosing without fear of retaliation and that's why they're all losing their minds over this. Tucker Carlson is screaming at people to call their senators and demand that they back Rick Scott because now they have no control over how any republican chooses to vote.

So hopefully Mitch succeeds in turning the government into a total do-nothing circus despite Trump possibly controlling the supreme court and all three branches of the government. GOP might fucking implode like the Whigs finally, MAGA spending all their time and energy trying to unseat traditional republicans, that deal

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago

Mitch realizes that conservative Republicans have lost their party to MAGA.

[–] Aielman15@lemmy.world 187 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You know the times are dire when you find yourself rooting for Moscow Mitch.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 107 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No kidding, I had a brief moment where I hated him slightly less but then I remembered all the tangible harm he has done and it went away.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 days ago

Please don't. Mitch is just as awful but with a tiny bit of intelligence making him dangerous.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not. The turtle is ruthless and smart and would limit the insanity. Nah, let the people have what they want.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We thought that the insanity would eventually make Trump and MAGA candidates unelectable. That hasn't happened yet, so I'm not sure if limiting it really matters.

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[–] subignition@fedia.io 104 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Please be advised, this is an article about a Tucker Carlson segment which doesn't provide any additional info or context of its own

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Tucker is telling MAGA that any non-MAGA republican is a fake RINO and can't be trusted.

Only those that Trump says are loyal, are actually loyal. Everyone else is sus.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I saw some professor online, saying that the first victims of fascists are the true believers of the party they grew out of, and to watch for that happening with the Republicans.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I have a suspicion that he's not going to pardon anyone who participated in Jan 6.

They failed, and he hates that.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 2 days ago

You mean like when the neocons got purged for not being loyal enough?

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh man, it sounds like the fascist out group just keeps growing.

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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I thought their Nacht der langen Messer was supposed to happen after the inauguration.

They're taking the "speed" part of "20th century speedrun" pretty seriously.

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[–] Drusas@fedia.io 101 points 3 days ago

I know they do it intentionally to water down the meaning of the words, but if I didn't know better, I would think these people were so fucking stupid that they just repeat whatever word they've recently heard used in a negative context.

Also, the lies and projection in that article are too egregious for me to get through the whole thing.

Edit: bad voice to text

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I’ll believe it when I see it. McConnell is a cold warrior and a Reagan Republican at heart, but he’s also soulless and evil like the rest of them.

Does some part of him still give a shit about his country? I find it hard to believe.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A big part of Project 2025 is eliminating checks and balances, and consolidating power into the Whitehouse. That means taking power away from the house and senate, and from McConnell.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

That means taking power away from the house and senate, and from McConnell.

Ah there it is. It's not about saving the USA, it's about him losing power.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If he gave a shit about the country, he would have voted to convict Trump back in 2021.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Does some part of him still give a shit about his country?

I doubt it. This is probably for selfish reasons.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wasn't he on the record criticizing Trump over j6 at some point? Might not have actually done anything about it, but that's probably incentive to at least want to avoid letting Trump go full dictator, lest he eventually find himself targeted for past disloyalty

[–] Veneroso@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

He was against impeachment and banning Trump from future office, because he was out of office and it was up to the justice department.

Well Mitch, the hen has come back to roost.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

He does more then shit his diaper on stage?

American politics looks like a fucking hospice.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 47 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Huh.

I've been sort of idly wondering who was going to be the first "enemy" politician the Trump regime was going to kill.

I'd say McConnell just became the odds-on favorite.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Extremists in politics are like people with an automatic machine gun and they're always uncontrollably firing at perceived enemies .... once they bring someone down ... they keep firing, turn around and start shooting at someone else .. and on and on and on ... they always see enemies ... once they eliminate someone, they move on to the next until eventually they start shooting at you.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago

There's nothing to be gained from platforming fascists like cucker.

[–] cerement 31 points 3 days ago

no honor among grifters

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

"Two of the three candidates hate Trump and what he ran on. One of them, John Cornyn, is an angry liberal whose politics are indistinguishable from Liz Cheney’s. The election is Wednesday, it’s by secret ballot, and it will determine whether or not the new administration succeeds."

Vote is Nov 13, arranged a month ago which Laura Loomer thinks this was the plan all along.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Describing Cornyn as a liberal is absolutely absurd

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You missed the Cheney part.

They are intentionally labelling anything not maga/nazi as liberal.

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[–] Nyciferi@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 3 days ago

They'll kiss Trump's ass in time, this is just a false alarm.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This made me think about a possible third term for Trump, this is without changing the rules.

Trump completes his next term, then campaigns again, this time for vice president, with a puppet as a running mate.

The puppet will, shortly after taking office, declare to step down for health reasons and Trump will be president again.

There is as far as I know, no rule preventing this.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The Vice President must be eligible to be president. Obama is not eligible for the VP position.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 11 points 2 days ago

Representative Trump could make it work though.

The reality, however, is that they'll just ignore the Constitution.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago

Huh, I did not know that, thanks!

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

This is not quite accurate. The vice president must be eligible to be the President, not to be elected President. The 22nd amendment has some very specific language.

"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once."

It prevents someone from being elected President, but does not make the person ineligible to be the President since it only restricts that one method of gaining the office. A person can definitely become President through succession even if they have served their full two terms already...at least by the constitution as written.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You can’t be vice president if you’re not eligible to be president, it’s in the constitution. 12th amendment.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

The Supreme Court will rule that nobody has standing to bring a challenge based on the 12th Amendment. Kind of like what they did to the Emoluments Clause.

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[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

If they have control of the house, Supreme Court, senate, and presidency then they can just change laws or ratify whatever they want including term limits for president. That’s the way I would see if going.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Also known as the Medwedew move. But I doubt Trump will manage one full term, let alone two.

He's 78 and displaying moderate dementia symptoms. I wouldn't worry about a third term.

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