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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online 58 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Does anyone care about the climate at this point?

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 65 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Feels like I'm the only one to be honest.

[–] arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, there's dozens of us. Dozens!

[–] hanrahan 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I counted 8, i think you're rigging the polls/s

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

No, no, that's lemmy users. /s

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 9 points 2 weeks ago

I care, but… I’m pretty exhausted at this point.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We are keeping our carbon cap and trade system here in Washington at least. We will be helping world CO2 emissions go down 0.3% (~100 million tons out of the 35 billion tons).

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

When I can afford it in the next few years, I plan on doing solar on the house. I drive as infrequently as possible and prefer my motorbike over my car (though my car is also only 660cc engine). I grow some of my own food and plan to steadily increase that as I learn and get better at farming. I try to buy local and regional where possible. I've stopped buying beef at home and it is now a special occasion food a handful of times a year.

I'm just one dude and ultimately make little difference, but I do care.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

With Trump in office who hates solar and wind power good luck wirh that. Were done not happening. We going have hard time eating in next few months.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Good luck getting cheap solar panels.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

Stein, West, and a handful of other candidates did, yes

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Most Americans deny climate change, so

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's just a once in a lifetime flood, bro! Sure, it's the third one this year, but c'mon! It's just normal seasonal cycles!

/s

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The hurricanes have become so frequent that they're hardly even talked about any more. I'm like "guys it's fucking November..".

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

Floodings are the new school shootings

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Trump likes winning. He’s team Hurricane.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

What the fuck happened to the education system

[–] rammer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

It was deliberately hampered to produce poorly educated people who are easier to swindle.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The only motive for education that kids are taught is for their careers and income. Education for fun or self improvement or world improvement is considered a waste of time and looked down on. That's why you get a bunch of economy obsessed fascists voting for an orange turd.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Capitalism.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 2 points 2 weeks ago

It was getting in the way of people voting for the most populist person so they got rid of it. It's now replaced with a combination of pavlovian reward system + "stay in line" reminders, so that voters can go for the simplest campaign promise (eg: make america great again), without struggling to understand if the 'how' can actually accomplish the 'what'.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I've accepted for a while now that "this is it". Despite all our meming about our retirement being dying in the coming water wars... reality won't be that far off.

As someone who always struggled to find reasons to live, I sure as hell can't see any now. This world is a literal hell unless you're rich. In that case it's your little playground and we the npc's who populate it.

I think I'd much rather save myself the trouble and suffering.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Don’t leave us you bastard. We are gonna see this through to the end.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

I plan to outlive every single one of these assholes that are going to get us all killed

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

At this rate, we might not even make it to the water wars.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So, with his leadership, is there any chance we won't have a global climate crisis before 2061?

I need someone to convince me, please.

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why wait this long?

many places will be uncomfortable if not intolerable by 2050—around the lifespan of most mortgages—we need to start planning where we make our homes now https://time.com/6209432/climate-change-where-we-will-live/

Want it sooner? Catastrophic climate 'doom loops' could start in just 15 years, new study warns

State of affairs: Global climate disaster inevitable if emissions aren't drastically reduced by 2035, U.N. warns

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 6 points 2 weeks ago

In 2061, I can see Halley's Comet with my naked eyes for the second time. It's the only thing I consistently look forward to anymore. I don't have descendants or a partner, and my best days are clearly behind me.

[–] GreeNRG 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Won’t anybody rid us of this meddlesome president?

[–] MrMakabar 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m not convinced he’s clever enough to control the inevitable infighting that would spring up after Trump.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thiel is. This is round two for Trump and his handlers have a better plan for dealing with him. Hell, they've probably already agreed on what to do when he dies in office. He's way too old and in poor health for them not to have that plan already planned out.

[–] GreeNRG 1 points 2 weeks ago

His supporters all won’t, so yes.

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump plans on addressing climate concerns. He's already going to put RFK Jr in charge of health and he's going to ban vaccines. Reducing the population will help lower emissions.

[–] silence7 6 points 2 weeks ago

This is generally not a great way to do it, since the emissions largely coming from fossil fuel burning. Fewer people doesn't help much if we burn even more.

[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean he’s more likely to privatize the system more, Pfizer, Moderna , and etc all have big money and deep pockets.

At the end of the day money is the important part for these people

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

This is the first time. He lost twice before