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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 94 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Congratulations to all of you!

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm loving how there are people responding to this that I've blocked (their comments won't load). I can only imagine what they're complaining about.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In this case, the response you had blocked is worth seeing just because it was weird as fuck:

Not sure, who you are congratulating and what does love have to do with army related things?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hate to double reply... But it's crazy how many mental people are on Lemmy. It blows my mind sometimes.

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Try a chan, this is sanity.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I already ate. Thank you though

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh man. That's sad. It doesn't even make any sense.

"What does congratulating service members have to do with the army things?".

Uhhh

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Idk personally, it's a little gay.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I honorably laughed. Oh you

[–] protist@mander.xyz 89 points 1 month ago (2 children)

“Since DADT repeal [in 2010], many veterans who sought to upgrade their less than honorable discharges reported a prolonged and burdensome process, often requiring the use of a lawyer, to seek the respect and benefits they rightfully earned,” the letter stated. “And far too many veterans discharged under DADT had no idea they could seek an upgrade or where to start the process.”

Austin said today that 96% of the service members who were separated under DADT now have an honorable discharge.

“We will continue to strive to do right by every American patriot who has honorably served their country,” he said.

Glad the Biden Admin proactively upgraded their discharge statuses so no more veterans have to fight to change theirs

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Glad the Biden Admin proactively upgraded their discharge statuses so no more veterans have to fight to change theirs

Nooo! Shut up! We have to focus on the horrible genocide in Gaza, while steering hard away from the horrible genocide in Ukraine!!!

--all of .ml

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

They also don't want you to talk about the genocide those now honorably discharged veterans are facing in event of a Trump victory.

[–] spacesatan@lazysoci.al -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Are you saying this outweighs supporting a genocide?

Like oh he might have killed someone but he did pay his parking tickets. There is no comparison here.

Hell he's not even running, why even downplay his crimes.

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This should've been done sooner.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All justice should be swifter. I'm still glad some people got acknowledged.

[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago
[–] halfwaythere@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can you shoot? Can you move? Can you communicate?

Then who the fuck cares who you prefer to be involved with!? Especially when a lot of soldiers/officers seem to like to be with other people's wives/husbands!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is the same reason why women should be allowed the same combat positions as men. They still aren't and it's stupid.

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

If I remember correctly, the US started rolling back restrictions in 2013. Progress has definitely been slow, and we aren't where we should be yet, but things are moving in the right direction.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

We still have a ways to go with psychologist research, to be fair. My dad served two tours between 2003-2006 and only more recently came to understand PTSD isn't something you just "get over."

Same for sexism. It's not easy for service members to get over that engrained idea of protecting women at the cost of the team. There's a lot of promising research in resilience studies preparing military members prior to entering combat that I think could apply. As long as researchers and artists involved in VR type training are careful to include particular elements like more femme voices and such, it can be overcome before it's an issue in active combat

And to be clear, I'm not familiar with the research veterans have cited to me that it is an issue to begin with. I've only really looked at PTSD and the use of VR for exposure therapy and CBT. I'm inclined to believe it would be an issue for at least some men. I'd like to look at Israel as a case study example when I get some time since they've had compulsory service for men and women for a while now

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is it because things are moving slow, or because there just isn't as many women as men signing up?

I imagine there's a natural imbalance between who wants to sign up. I'm just spitballing though, happy to be wrong.

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

There are definitely fewer women In the military in general. And many fewer women pursuing certain positions, like Rangers or SEALs.

The institutions moved slowly, too. Some groups within the military were hesitant to open up fully to women. And there are the usual systemic hurdles, like physical fitness tests that favored male physiques, which put women at a disadvantage until they were changed.

I think women's participation in the military will mirror what we have seen in women's athletics: as it becomes more common we will see closer parity between women and men. I also suspect the services will find that women tend to perform certain skills better than men.

[–] IceHouse@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago

Progress would be abolishing the military not dooming more people to be killed for imperialism

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Name one combat position women aren't allowed in (US).

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Navy SEAL when I was in. That may have changed since then, I've been out for well over a decade.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

"Well over a decade" ago is very different than today.

In 2013, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta removed the military's ban on women serving in combat, overturning the 1994 rule. Panetta's decision gave the military services until January 2016 to seek special exceptions if they believed any positions must remain closed to women. The services had until May 2013 to draw up a plan for opening all units to women and until the end of 2015 to actually implement it.

In December 2015, Defense Secretary Ash Carter stated that starting in 2016 all combat jobs would open to women.

[–] BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You're giving squids a bad name. Surely you understood the question refers to present, not the past, right?

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I would argue that half the army recruits can only do two out of the three of those, and half them only one at a time.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They worked hard! They deserve to be appreciated!