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[–] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 162 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let me get this straight, CBS is refusing to fact check the VP nominee who, on TV, admitted that if he has to make up lies to get America's attention then he'd do just that?

Eat shit CBS

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 weeks ago

They should just add "Admitted liar" to his marquee whenever he's on screen.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 157 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

If there is no fact checking, Kamala needs to be ready to ask why Trump nominated someone who isn't allowed in any Ashley Furniture store in the lower 48 states and Alberta.

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[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Surely CBS knows that a random person cannot unilaterally revoke their broadcasting license and shut down their legal corporation.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 53 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When it happens, do you think the Supreme Court is going to side with CBS?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yes. Who do you think has more money, trumpler, or Paramount Global (formerly Viacom)?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago

Depends how much of the rest of the government apparatus Trump's brown shirts manage to take control of

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

So you didn’t pay attention to any part of the immunity ruling. Got it.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

In a liberal federal republic that isn't a failed state, no.

In what Republicans want and are actively working towards?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The president absolutely can. Would it be legal? Probably not. Would that matter after federal agents kick everyone out of your studio and lock it? Probably not.

[–] match@pawb.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

(or after he incites a magat to firebomb them)

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago

A random person - no.

A person who controls millions of narrow minded gun wielding nationalists - maybe.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 76 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Don't act like Walz wiping the floor with Vance is a forgone conclusion, it's not. That's what people thought about Biden's debate. Whether we admit it or not, there's intelligent Republican debaters who can't be baited out there, Trump just isn't one of them.

I genuinely wonder if the best option wouldn't be to refuse the VP debate until live fact-checking is in place for both candidates. That, or correcting simple untruths didn't count toward their time. I love Tom Walz, but if he has to literally spend his entire time refuting very obvious lies continuously spewed by Vance, his time would be better spent campaigning in swing states. How much does a Vice-Presidential debate really matter, anyway?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

correcting simple untruths didn’t count toward their time

This would be THE BEST rule ever for all debates of any kind.

I disagree, that'll be abused by candidates to get more screen time.

We should keep the fact checking ABC did and perhaps deduct time for candidates that are consistently caught out on lies. The fact checkers should be approved by all candidates as well, so they can't just point to the hosts as favoring one or another.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Part of the problem is that nearly every sentence trump spoke was a lie, so fact checking was not 100%. They just fact checked random things, like, nobody is eating our pets. ProfessorWeKnowDis.gif

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

They fact checked the most obvious stuff on purpose. It's irrefutable. You cannot seriously claim they were biased when their two fact checks were the most basic shit. And yet that highlights just how bad Trump is.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s not that Trump is killing anything; no more than millenials killed anything. It’s the media that’s the problem. If we’re going to blame anybody for failed media, then let’s blame the appropriate people. Instead of giving them a scape goat, we hold their feet to the fire.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This. They made the choice not because Trump is a whiny little baby, but because they see dollar signs by allowing him to make a spectacle.

[–] Chekhovs_Gun@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

He has no power to shut down a major news network, so one must ask why they decided to change the policy. It is not because of Trump's impotent threats.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 23 points 2 weeks ago

Because they want a piece of that sweet, lucrative, "insane spectacle" money. The execs don't care, as long as they get paid.

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I assume the Trump/Vance campaign privately told CBS no fact checking else Vance drops out of the debate.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Some people are under the mistaken impression that corporate news is not run specifically by republiQans to promote conservatism.

🌎🧑‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

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[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I kinda wanna see the entire debate evolve into ludicrous, outlandish claims back and forth. Just sheer comedy. I know this isn't the right way to fix anything, but it's what we deserve at this point for letting the situation get this far unchecked.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Imagine a candidate spilling bullshit like "Haitian immigrants are eating the dogs". That would be hilarious.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 weeks ago

Oh don't be ridiculous, who would be stupid enough to believe something like that?

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I can't fathom it.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

"No, you have poopy pants!"

This is the level of discourse I've come to expect from presidential debates ever since trumpler entered the races.

[–] 50MYT@aussie.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"I will give everyone a car to drive to work"

"I will do one better! A helicopter! Helicopters are way cooler!"

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[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

This is exactly the spirit I'm talking about.

[–] shutz@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is the debate being simulcast on all the major networks? I seem to remember seeing the Trump/Harris debate on ABC, CBS and NBC (just with different talking heads before and after).

If so, ABC should broadcast the debate with fact-checking overlays (Pop-up video style?) and advertise the shit out of the fact that they'll be doing this.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 5 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, it's Kennedy vs. Nixon all over again, with techno-enhanced augmentation of "facts"!

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Pop up ~~video~~ debates

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Walz needs to make outlandish, unbelievable, rumors. Couch fucking should sound normal.

Vance is technology he's own great-,grandfather/ brother. You know, he's Grafa bro! His pet ladybug is very proud of their accomplish.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 5 points 2 weeks ago

That would be so fun if he would use the maga debate technic and go full lie after lie making Vance lose his time refuting everything

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

he has no power on his own. go after the shadow drivers that hide behind his buffoonery if you really truly want to see clarity

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Trump demands networks agree with him.

[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

How was Trump's threat successful?

[–] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

CBS says they will not fact check the debate, some people see this is because ABC was threatened and so CBS is caving to Trumps threats

[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I get it now, thanks!

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

I feel like less people will watch the VP debate but people might still point out that jd vance is lying out of his aaa

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