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Because let's say you're Tom Hanks. And you get TomHanks@Lemmy.World

Well, what's stopping someone else from adopting TomHanks@Lemm.ee?

And some platforms minimize the text size of platform, or hide it entirely. So you just might see TomHanks, and think it's him. But it's actually a 7 year old Chinese boy with a broken leg in Arizona.

Because anyone can grab the same name, on a different platform.

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[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 65 points 2 months ago

Well, what’s stopping someone else from adopting TomHanks@Lemm.ee?

There's over 1400 people solely in the US named Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks The Celebrity does not get patent rights or trademarks or copyrights on the name.

Wanna know which is the Tom Hanks The Celebrity? Check if their profile is authenticated against their personal website, à-la-Mastodon.

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 months ago (36 children)

I presume I'm supposed to care, but I dont, and I don't know why anyone would.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Tom@tomhanks.com

A celebrity can host their own domain to prove authenticity.

So what. On Xitter I can make an account called Tom.Hanks and get the blue mark by paying Elon. Because Tom Hanks has the username Tom_Hanks.

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[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The fix for this is for the guilds and unions that represent these celebrities to spin up their own instances. The suffix of the username granting the legitimacy.

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[–] halm@leminal.space 24 points 2 months ago

That's a feature, not a bug. Celebrity culture needs to get in the sea.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (14 children)

It should work the same as email: you can trust it’s them if the user account is hosted on their own site, or their employer’s, or if they link to it from another confirmed source.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 months ago

Kind of like the BBC has their own Mastodon server instead of being on someone elses.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yep. Also, aren't there already celebrities on Mastodon? I know George Takei is. Granted, you'd have to know he was @mastodon.social versus mstdn.social so that could complicate things for those unfamiliar with the platform.

OP's definitely got a point, though.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 4 points 2 months ago

One good thing IMO about threads federating, that we get the celebrities, we know they're verified, but I don't have to join corpo social media.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Who the fuck wants celebrities here?

This is a good thing.

[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago (9 children)

We have @MargotRobbie@lemmy.world.

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[–] jeffhykin@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Celebrities are going to be shocked when they hear about email

Yes, but you see. Lemmy users generally don't give a flat fuck about what celebrities want.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's a huge deal, we'll either know they're legit or not. Care to weigh in @MargotRobbie@lemmy.world ?

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[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Never heard of email

[–] rglullis@communick.news 13 points 2 months ago

If you are that famous or worried about trademark, you shouldn't be using someone else's server. Tom Hanks can just buy e.g tomhanks.actor domain and set up the @me@tomhanks.actor AP actor.

I keep repeating this: the weird part is that we still have all these companies and institutions being okay with depending on someone else's namespace. Having the NYT still announcing their Twitter or Instagram for social media presence is the same as using aol.com for their email.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

You seem to be under the impression that it’s good if this place grows explosively. It’s not. There’s no VC to pay back here (and thank fuckin god for that). There’s no ad revenue here (again, this is good).

Also, not entirely sure what exactly to make of the weirdly targeted quip about a Chinese child, but spidey sense says it’s nothing good.

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[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's why she hosts her own domain, instead of sending half a million followers to some random fediverse instance.

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[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm not here for celebrities and they will always flock to centralized platforms anyways, since they are all about the views.

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Those poor celebrities! What will we do without them?

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of ICANN fucking up all the domain names.

CocaCola.com CocaCola.new CocaCola.drink Cocacola.world CocaCola.bev

Etc.

Shameful. One thing that might work for the fediverse is federal institutions running their own Mastadon instances on .gov to move away from announcements on Twitter. You can’t fake .gov domains.

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[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Taylor Swift's Twitter handle is @taylorswift13 and it doesn't seem to be a problem for her.

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[–] ArtieShaw@fedia.io 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Shock: I'm not really Artie Shaw.

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[–] csolisr@hub.azkware.net 7 points 2 months ago

Account verification is relatively simple, if you have your own website you just add a link back with a special formatting. Problem is, barely anyone applies for self-verification, and several platforms such as Lemmy don't support self-verification whatsoever. I can see why something like a distributed verification agency should be a thing, if we manage to make the implementation less technical for the end users of course.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I think it might be kind of nice to be Tom Hanks and have the name WilsonsOnlyFriend@lemmy.world and just chat and chill.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We had a AMA with Will Ropp, an actor a few months ago: https://lemm.ee/post/31335226

!movies@lemm.ee

We verified it was him by having him send us a message from his IG.

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[–] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We decided to not host any sort of Buy-Sell-Trade community on our hobby instance for this reason. It's a small community so a lot of people know usernames of people they know and can trust. It's very easy for a scammer to use someone's username and say "I'll sell you that thing! Send me $150!".

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm on MBin. Your username is displayed as: walden. I can mouse over that to learn that your full username is @walden@sub.wetshaving.social.

This is the same thing as email domain names and display names. Yes, scammers still exploit that, too, but for the most part, people have gotten used to also looking at the actual full email address, and not just the display name or mailbox name. The same can happen here.

Still, I would much prefer if the default view here showed the full username and not just the display name.

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[–] vamp07@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I see this as a benefit. Generally speaking celebrity posts are the most useless threads on most platforms.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 2 months ago

I have a dream that one day I be part of a platform where one will not be judged by the glamor of their username but by the quality of their discourse.

[–] greenshirtdenimjeans@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 4 points 2 months ago

Because anyone can grab the same name, on a different platform.

That's always the case, even for centralized platforms. Usernames are just usernames. Same thing with email. This is a fundamental problem with the internet and the solution is that celebrities and such host their own ActivityPub server (just like their own email server) or make it clear on their personal website what their own official account is somewhere else.

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