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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 233 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Donald Trump supporters are rebelling against him after the former president once again put forth a policy proposal that would award green cards to immigrants with college degrees.

Save a click.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 86 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That is so obviously something his majority-undereducated followers would disapprove of.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

"They're taking our degrees!"

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

“Degrees” doesn’t sound as funny as “jerbs”, but it’ll do.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They're takin our learnin things!

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 7 points 4 months ago
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Ermahgerd, dey terk er gersberms.

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[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just wait til they find out you can gain citizenship by serving in our military

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but it is not automatic, despite the government literally having all the information already so they should be able to, blame Congress as usual. And quite often the way to begin that process is not mentioned to those that would qualify. It's clearly one of the many areas the military doesn't handle well.

For those that need it, a link to check eligibility and get the forms necessary:

https://www.uscis.gov/military/naturalization-through-military-service

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I served with several who were trying to gain citizenship that way. I never thought to ask how they found out about it, I was always more interested in learning what they loved about here and missed from their home countries lol.

There's also the chance that they'll get deported after service because they weren't given adequate support for PTSD and/or TBI.

https://www.pbssocal.org/shows/voces/the-u-s-has-deported-thousands-of-veterans-a-new-policy-change-offers-new-hope-for-soldiers-left-behind

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

There's also the chance that they'll get deported after service because they weren't given adequate support for PTSD and/or TBI.

Disgusting as it is, all the more reason to make sure these individuals know what they qualify for and get them everything they deserve.

The poor support we have for our veterans and first responders in this country after they're out is ridiculous with the amount we pay for it. The VA isn't immune from the US healthcare bullshit lobbied for by the insurance and pharmaceutical industries to line their pockets. Remove the shit they have managed to drive into the system for decades and our current spending would go a lot further, and increasing that funding at that point would get us to a more reasonable point. Instead they're fighting about shit like whether having soldiers near burning pits of hazardous materials is bad for their health or not.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This does not benefit the average Trump voter, this only benefits the owners and investors of private healthcare businesses as it will allow them to employ filipinos and indian doctors and nurses with cheap salaries

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

H1B visas require you to pay the prevailing wage to candidates. These doctors are not given “cheap salaries.” And they often come with much better practical experience than some American straight out of fellowship.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's assuming they're treated properly and not subjected to unreasonable expectations just because management knows they can hold the worker's visa over his head.

[–] Riftinducer@aussie.zone 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention that hiring immigrant workers means lowering the chance of hiring someone with an intimate knowledge of workers rights, making it easier to pull illegal shit without repercussions.

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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

They're not. I do this for a living. Physicians have all the power in the relationship with private practices and health systems can't afford to lose them, so they stand pat too.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 83 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We spend so much time focusing on Trump that it’s easy to overlook how reprehensible his followers are. What incredibly hateful people! “We won’t support you anymore because you stand for things that don’t hurt ‘them’ enough! You’ve lost my vote!”

Seethe, MAGAts, seethe.

[–] zigmus64@lemmy.world 59 points 4 months ago (5 children)

"Yeah. Sure. 'Operation Paperclip' worked out Fantastic for America and Americans. We are paying for that naïveté to this very day," the user wrote.

Umm… what?

Ignoring the fact that most if not all of them were full-blown card carrying Nazis, those guys kept the US steadily ahead of the Soviet Union during the Cold War and they got us to the Moon.

What the actual fuck could this guy be talking about?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 4 months ago

They don't have any actual thoughts, just predispositions that get watered by their media to grow into weeds of incomprehensible hate.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

After the war ended, we were snatching up kraut scientists like hot cakes. You don’t believe me? Walk into NASA sometime and yell “Heil Hitler”, WOOP, they all jump straight up!

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Still? Most likely those guys are long dead.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's a reference to Archer. Which was referencing operation paperclip.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Damn it, I had something for this!

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well he might be worried about Nazis in America, but uh that Venn diagram has very little overlap.

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 50 points 4 months ago

A broadly educated population is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative ideologies.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago
[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Hmmm

GOP - attack education at all levels and accuse universities of being liberal communist breeding grounds

Also GOP - We gotta ban all foreigners on the wrong end of the family guy color swatch and mass deport those already here

Trump - Let's give foreigners with degrees green cards

Something doesn't track here.

If I get my tinfoil hat resized, I might think this is how you lower pay for professionals.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Something doesn’t track here.

Treason Trump is trying to be an immigration extremist at both ends simultaneously.

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

I figured this balancing act would topple eventually. He can't keep his crazy Base happy and reach out to moderates with sensible policy.

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Did you really need to click bait it? Just write the reason in the header.

[–] btaf45@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Treason Trump is going to hand out unlimited Green Cards to foreign workers as a favor to billionaire friends.

[–] pastabatman@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

I hate articles that just regurgitate tweets. A few random people saying something doesn't make it news.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"I hope to see changes but until then, I am now an uncommitted voter."

What do you bet he's still gonna vote R in November

[–] match@pawb.social 12 points 3 months ago

it's a Twitter post, I'd be surprised he was ever real

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 3 months ago

There's just as good a chance he will just stay home.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Spoke to an old man today who needed help blocking all of the Trump shit he subbed to. Apparently he isn't voting for him anymore. Dunno if he's voting for Harris or just not voting, but it felt good getting rid of all that shit for him

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

My wife overheard some boomers at a restaurant talking and she was shocked to hear them talking about NOT voting for Trump. He's not doing himself any favors. Previously alienating seniors and vets because of Project NeverHeardOfIt, now this. He's eroding his own base trying to appeal to a larger audience and I'm ok with that.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Nice! I love things like this. Gives me a little hope lol

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Archive.

The only interesting things in the story were:

Trump took to Truth Social at around 3:00 A.M. on Saturday morning to share a link celebrating a proposal he had previously put forth.

The link, an opinion piece from the Washington Examiner, is titled, "Trump is right: Foreign graduates should get green cards."

The rest of it is just cherry picked tweets or xits or whatever.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Oh this could be a new strategy. Trick Trump into sharing things his base will hate by starting the headline with something like "Trump is right" or "Trump is a genius."

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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

These fuckin’ jabronis.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As a foreigner with a college degree who grew up in the States: no thanks. I have nothing against Americans, but their politics alone drive people mad.

[–] zigmus64@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Me too dude…

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Welcome to the club. Donuts and coffee are on the table. Group discussion starts in 5.

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Yeah. Sure. 'Operation Paperclip' worked out Fantastic for America and Americans. We are paying for that naïveté to this very day,"

Operation Paperclip was a secret United States intelligence program in which more than 1600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians were taken from former Nazi Germany to the U.S. for government employment after the end of World War II in Europe, between 1945 and 59.

Yeah, it just did horrible things for America....

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[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

LOL! Didn't expect this to be a "Trump isn't racist/xenophobic/stupid enough for me." thing. Hilarious.

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