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[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 155 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I can't and wouldn't teach your kid to be gay. I can't get him to write his fucking name at the top of the page.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 64 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That’s generally not what they’re really concerned about. “I don’t want teachers teaching my children to be gay” is just code for, “I don’t want teachers teaching my children that it’s ok to be gay.”

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 18 points 5 months ago

I hate that more people don't understand this. It leads to a bunch of discussion and anxiety about nothing at all.

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[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 124 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Just because I'm an IT guy, it doesn't mean I know why your laptop is slow.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 76 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Also, that software engineer and IT are not interchangeable terms

[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

"I'm a software engineer, not a printer whisperer"

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[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 36 points 5 months ago (9 children)

"Can you hack my ex-girlfriends Instagram?"

Or, "I have an amazing idea for an app..."

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[–] dotdi@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or how to fix your printer.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 45 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Nobody knows how to fix a printer

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[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 114 points 5 months ago (13 children)

Electronic voting is a terrible idea. Lil' bits of paper with representatives watching the vote counters is a pretty solid system. There's no problem there that needs to be fixed.

I say this as a Canadian who has volunteered as an observer in federal elections. I know Americans have their thing going on, but seriously. Paper ballots all the way.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 47 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

As a software development expert, I take issue with

"our entire field is bad at what we do, and if you rely on us, everyone will die."

That's way off base.

She under-stated the hell out of that.

Our average practitioner is bad at both their own job, and at the jobs of those whose lives their shoddy work complicates.

Anyone trusting us with their lives or livelihood should be very very alarmed.

We're also now producing artificial intelligence tools that allow us to do equally shoddy work, but now in dramatically greater quantity.

Edit: Let's say this is 60/40 sarcasm and sincere, and I'm not sure which is the 60%...

I work with some of the best, and I've worked with plenty of the worst. I've also been both, on different days.

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[–] almost1337@lemm.ee 100 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The cloud is just someone else's computer

[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 40 points 5 months ago (3 children)

But someone who is better at managing computers than 99% of people.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But that someone will have their own priorities that will most likely not always coindice with yours.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 95 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The more users you have, the more expensive it is to run.

Like, compute, storage, bandwidth, none of that is free. If you’re providing a free service, like Wikipedia, and you have many millions of users, like Wikipedia, your expenses will be enormous. You can either accept donations, like Wikipedia, require payment, or sell your users.

If there’s something you like that’s free online, support them. If they don’t accept donations, well, I hate to tell you, you’re the product.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 32 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Also when “you’re the product” that doesn’t just mean that your data is the product. A user is a person whom you can influence. “You’re the product” means this company can direct you, influence you, change your behavior. They can offer your behavioral changes, as a service to their other stakeholders.

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[–] 0_0j@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

If they don’t accept donations, well, I hate to tell you, you’re the product.

A statement has never been truer than this

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 75 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Turning your computer off and back on again will solve 90% of your problems.

Of the other 10% an additional reboot while on the phone with the IT person solves those.

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[–] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 72 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I'm a welder, and the general public doesn't seem to understand why we charge so much for our services. Like, 80% of my work is fit-up, alignment, math, measurements, and work area prep.

All the public sees is "durr, me hot glue metal! All done!" That's exactly what you get with Jim Bob who owns a welder yet has never trained for it. He's cheap, his welds are ugly, and they're likely to fail in the near future.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Also do trades. People seem to have no perception that quality varies. They assume it's busy work, it's either done or not done, works or don't work. All as if you flip a couple magical switches and everything's finished.

Always frustrating to explain how the electrician that's 15$ an hour is gonna get you killed, and that wiring isn't just snaking cords through a conduit.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 71 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Read the error message. The whole thing.

This comes up even with coworkers who are allegedly senior software developers.

"It's just a white page it's not working"

"Ok well what does the console say? Network requests?"

"403?"

"Ok now what's in the response body?"

"The what?"

"Click on it. Then response "

"It says I don't have permission to view this page "

"Do you have permission to view this page?"

"...no."

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 29 points 5 months ago (6 children)

"What does the error message say?"

"I already closed it. Those things are always gibberish"

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I literally once got an email from another engineer using our internal tool at the big tech company I used to work for which said something like, “the page isn’t working. Please help. Attached screenshot of error.” The attached screenshot showed the error message, “Your authentication token has expired. Please refresh the page.”

I emailed him back, “oh yeah, that happens when your authentication token expires. Try refreshing the page.”

He emailed me back, “that worked, thanks!”

(For anyone wondering, no, we can’t refresh the page for the user, because they might have unsaved data on it.)

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[–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 65 points 5 months ago (11 children)

Building genuinely secure computer systems is incredibly difficult. You might even be in systems/software and be thinking "yeah it is hard", but to be really secure it's 1000x harder than that. So everything you use off the shelf from any vendor is a massive compromise and has holes in it. But on the other hand most people don't need really secure systems.

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 58 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's at least mostly going away nowadays, but....pulling a fire alarm will not make your school fire sprinklers go off. Getting one sprinkler to go off is just that. One sprinkler. None of the rest will go off.

Also, fires in a building are never a spot here, a spot there, over there a spot, and just randomly burning patches all over the place. It just grows out and up from its origin point, for the most part. It doesn't magically plant little patches all over the place. It's also often times so smoky and so thick with smoke that you quite literally couldn't see a big portion of fire if it were ten feet in front of you. You feel the heat and maybe see a faint bit of orange glow. Sometimes you don't even get to see that.

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[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 47 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That current "AI" is not turning into Skynet any time soon.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It might turn into dumb skynet though. Like a version of skynet that does malicious things, but not because it’s trying to hurt people, just because it’s really stupid and we put it in charge of things.

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[–] Uninformed_Tyler@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Everyone gets older. Everyones body breaks down eventually. The amount of elderly who have said "I never thought something like this would happen to me". Look around Edna! What made you think you were going to avoid what happens to everyone else!?

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[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago (7 children)

At most corporate pizza places only a fraction of the delivery charge goes to the driver. My job, for example, charges $4.99 for delivery and gives the drivers $0.60.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I once interviewed to be a delivery driver for Domino's and my Dad was adamant it was a bad idea and I should find different work and then insisted that I ask them about insurance if I was going to do it.

It felt super awkward because I was pretty young and people just don't ask those kinds of questions for minimum wage. He wanted me to ask them if they provided insurance to their drivers when they're driving cars for them on the clock and explained to me that if there's an accident while using the car for work then my insurance wouldn't cover it which I checked and indeed they wouldn't.

The interviewer said they didn't provide insurance but asked if I was insured and if I was, wouldn't I be fine anyway? I said the insurance was not going to cover me while using the car for the job and the guy had this answer in a different tone like a kind of I've got this super clever scam that no one's ever thought of but I'll let you in on it vibe and leant forward and said "oh yeh, we know what to do here in that situation, what you do is you just say you weren't working at the time". I was incredulous but still a nervous teen and kind of meekly protested "but like what about the several pizzas in a bag and the uniform?" And he's like "oh you just tell them you were on your way home from work and that's your dinner". That, along with many other fucked up things that occurred in the brief space of time this interview occupied convinced me to nope out of there.

Yeh dude, I'm going to try and commit insurance fraud... very poorly... for Dominos... who can't simply provide the necessary protection to allow people to do the job they're asking them to do. If I have to get my own insurance, if it has to be a special kind of more expensive insurance that's going to cover me driving for work, then I'm a contractor, not an employee and I'm going to set my own rates and they're going to be a lot higher then what they were offering considering I also have to maintain my own vehicle and pay for fuel and insurance, to a certain extent I even arguably have to use the skill of knowing how and also being licensed to drive in the first place which makes it not exactly "unskilled" labour in this first place.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just google the error message. Copy, paste. Read the top 5 results.

No, click on the results and read the page.

Did you read it? Explain to me why it doesn’t work.

Still broken? Call the vendor.

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[–] Nemo@midwest.social 38 points 5 months ago

If you want your chicken extra crispy, it takes longer.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Driving a car badly is much more risky than driving fast.

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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Still studying, but I often see people think that WiFi = Internet.

Thankfully, some of them at least acknowledge existence of "Exclamation mark WiFi".

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[–] ssm@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Software doesn't age, it doesn't make sense for your computer to become slower as it becomes older. (some) Software just becomes more shitty and bloated with every release, which is what you're experiencing.

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[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 27 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Radioactive contamination: things don't transfer the property of radioactivity to everything they touch and/or irradiate. If that were the case, the entire ~~Earth~~ universe would have become radioactive gray goo long, long ago.

When radiation workers talk about "contamination," we mean radioactive compounds have physically transferred from one object onto/into another. For example, tools becoming contaminated with radioactive metal dust from equipment they touch, or clothing absorbing radioactive iodine gas from the air.

There is a form of radiation called neutron radiation that does make some formerly stable things (mainly metals) radioactive. This isn't something you're likely to encounter unless you're a specific type of radiation worker, however.

This is mainly gear-grindy to me because the reason we don't have gamma-sterilized produce in the US is completely unfounded fear that gamma irradiation "contaminates" everything it touches. So we could be having lovely fresh strawberries and peppers that last weeks longer than they usually do, but no, we can't because rAdIaTiOn ScArY 🙄

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[–] CuriousRefugee@lemmy.ml 26 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Space is hard. You're strapping something inside a big tube with basically directed explosives at the bottom, hoping it survives the trip, then subjecting it to constant radiation, huge temperature swings, and other brutal environmental factors like micrometeoroids. Just because we've been sending satellites and people up to space for nearly 70 years doesn't mean it's gotten easier; we're just better at knowing what to expect so we can test for it. Failures in rockets or satellites or even manned spacecraft are going to happen as much as we work to prevent them.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I feel like most people know that rocket science is hard.

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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I am preaching to the choir on Lemmy, but:

Do your security updates and use different passwords for different sites.

I know it’s a pain in the ass, although it’s a much smaller one than you’re making it sound. But yes it is important, yes the “hackers” will come after you (or more accurately their automated systems will that come after everybody).

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[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

I do not literally build buildings. I design them, I document them for construction, I collaborate with other people who do actually build the buildings to make sure everything's on the level.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Nothing about game development is "easy"

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[–] norimee@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

Medicine is not an exact science. Every human body is different and will react different to treatment or show different symptoms.

That your doctor couldn't diagnose you right away or a treatment is not working for you as wanted (or as it did for your neighbor) has most often nothing to do with the competence of the medical personel but with the fact, that your body is not a massproduced machine but 100% unique a änd individual biological mass.

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[–] Copythis@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Sometimes your printer won't print in black and white if a color is out because it uses all of the colors to create a deeper black. Depends on the model though.

And some of them use yellow as a lubricant because yellow toner has a consistency close to water.

Also, please do not copy money or your butt. Trust me.

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[–] Knossos@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Something doesn't work in a particular piece of software. "Don't they test their program?". "All they need to do is X, obviously they don't know how to code!".

Sometimes it isn't as easy as you think.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

I am the company IT guy. Not your IT guy.

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