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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 68 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Socialism doesn't just seem like a good idea, it's pretty much the only possible future that doesn't end up with 99% of humanity suffering horribly.

The idea of everyone being able to work to make the means to survive has a rapidly approaching shelf life, most companies won't employ humans over whatever tech is on the horizon as soon as it's cheaper. The areas that remain habitable due to climate change will shrink

I do not know why this isn't treated as a more pressing issue

[–] ilovecheese@feddit.uk 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's strange isn't it? It 'seems obvious' but there's such resistance, and not just from those who benefit from the status quo.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Just like religion, a bunch of people associate their work with their identity. If you remove the work, you threaten their identity and that is frightening.

That and some are just millionaires waiting to happen any day now.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I am surviving with you. I love you.

[–] pavnilschanda@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Being neurodivergent does that to you

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

It's hard. I love you.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Often when I'm talking to give information, people get something completely different from it. I know how words work, but somehow it turns to garbage between my brain and their ears.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

“Am I talking like the god damn riddler?” when my simple statement is somehow wildly misunderstood

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't start every question with "Riddle me THIS, Batman!" 🤔

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 8 points 4 months ago

This happens to me constantly. Just the other day I asked some friends for something and then they sent the literal exact opposite of that thing. Pretend I asked for blue with red stripes they gave me green with yellow polka dots. And it wasn't just one person it was three separate people who all decided that made sense for some reason.

I was extremely specific too, even more than usual because I know people constantly misinterpret me. I made extra sure to not use any language with vague meanings and it still happened anyway. It's like we live in alternate realities where words have completely different meanings.

It makes me not want to talk to people at all.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't know anything about what is between my ears and your brains, but even so, I love you.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I don't know how to make a convincing heart on here so instead I will just say thank you.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Asking a technical question at work only for people to interpret it in a completely wrong way and needing to rephrase everything after confirming with a colleague that what I wrote the first time was actually clear... How do people's brain works?

[–] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I only recenlty learned I have had undiagnosed autism my whole life (in my thirties now), and being able to recontextualise that I literally did have an - on average - different way of experiencing reality, with some filters missing, some intuitive normalities just not developing, and my brain focusing in a different way, that's helping me a whole lot. Finally I don't have to gaslight myself into thinking I am just lacking will and strength of character to fit into this world, as that's what my socialisation had been instilling into me.

With having been obsessed with history and philosophy from a young age, I am also often not able to understand that the vast majority of people actually lives in a world where those things are at best superficially engaged with. Personally, at least at this moment of time, I think that is genuinely dangerous, because, oh boy, looking at the current material situation of the world and taking historical situations to estimate the possible consequences, things are not looking good. I firmly believe we need a globalised, socialist/communist mode of production and more short term, an international political infrastructure to organise the challenges ahead, but I fear it will only come about after things will be getting worse for quite some time, still.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Welcome to the doomer generation. I love you.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You might enjoy the book "Climate Leviathan". It's about all that and draws on a lot of history and philosophy.

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[–] ilovecheese@feddit.uk 17 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Honestly, sometimes yes.

I genuinely can't understand 'peoples' need to hate on each other. All the time.

But I feel like the tin foil hat wearing loony when I share this sentiment with most people.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Most people are unsatisfied with their lives. There are two ways we generally try to deal with this; improve your own situation or try bringing other people down to your level. Many feel like the latter option is easier.

I don't hate anyone or anything. Hate is a toxic emotion that poisons your own mind but leaves the target of it unaffected. It also implies the thing you're hating is responsible for whatever it is that makes you hate it and assumes they could choose to do otherwise. I don't believe in this. People don't choose to behave badly. They just do and couldn't have done otherwise.

[–] ilovecheese@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago

“Resentment is like drinking poison and then hoping it will kill your enemies.”

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[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do most people live in a room chained to a bed and toilet, being gang banged by large women and doom scrolling Lemmy?

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] corroded@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Even when I'm by myself, I often get the feeling like I'm in a "bubble," and everything I'm looking at outside of myself is some other reality different from my own. It's not a positive or a negative feeling, just kind of weird.

So to answer your question: Yes.

[–] ilovecheese@feddit.uk 4 points 4 months ago

To be fair, that is true!

We are each in our own simulated 'reality' of whats going on out there.

Perhaps it wold be nice if people could 're-calibrate' their 'realities' sometimes?

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[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

Yes because I can't comprehend how anyone else think or feel. I can empathize, but I cannot fully understand how they think or feel because I transpose my thoughts and feelings to what others perceive and think.

I am stuck in my head with my thinking and my feelings, but I will never know what it feels to not be me.

I'm fine with that, but it boggles my mind sometimes.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

A conspiracy is a plan carried out by a group, usually clandestinely and usually to the detriment of others, and they are very common (fake electors scheme, Northwoods, sea spray).

But most people "don't believe" in conspiracies, which means they 1) don't believe in people making plans and carrying them out, and they 2) don't believe in objective, historical fact.

To live in the world and refuse to acknowledge how it operates and how other people operate must be very confusing.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I will subscribe to your conspiracy newsletter. I love you.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Peace and love, friend.

[–] Guadin@k.fe.derate.me 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I see a lot of people have big meta thoughts and feelings. But mine is relatively small. I find that I live in a different reality since a lot of co-experienced events are remembered differently by the others. Let's say a work meeting, when I think that it was a nice calm and friendly meetig others are heated and steaming by all the insults. The same with emails and other communications Also with a sportmatches. For instance when I really enjoyed a match and thought both teams did a nice job of performing, the media paints a vastly different picture where one team was really awful and performed well belowed standards.

So my perception of reality seems really of from the rest of the population.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

My solipsistic reality is indeed different from yours. I love you.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Being ND, yeah. Especially when one of the things common with what's different with me is that I often make weird associations that no one else sees.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully you will never be South Dakota. That would be weird. regardless of your dakotaness, I love you.

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[–] hanrahan 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, we live in a world were many serious people with serious credetrials can't see lasting. and people go to a Taylor Swift concert or a Football game

"I see no way out of revolutionary changes to how we live today .... it is too late for non-radical futures" - Professor Kevin Anderson

https://social.rebellion.global/@ScientistRebellion/110235597189756736

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/07/un-expert-human-rights-climate-crisis-economy

Outgoing special rapporteur David Boyd says ‘there’s something wrong with our brains that we can’t understand how grave this is’

I am a stranger in a strange land

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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

I didn't but then they killed harambe and now its like I fell through a crack in reality and entered a shitty distopian novel.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah, asd/adhd does that to you when you see how other people function “normally” and how your hangups are wildly more uncontrollable over trivial things. Then you get the adhd on top of that. Focus is a highly ambivalent and fickle creature. Good times. The brain being the reality we each experience, I think people with neurodivergence actually do experience a different reality than normative people do.

[–] bear@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Everyone lives in the same objective reality of course but everyone experiences a unique subjective reality. Everyone has specific thoughts and feelings that nobody else has ever had. Some people are more unique than others depending on their age, environment, and life choices.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I embrace your objective reality. I love you.

[–] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Do not smoke crack. I love you.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

What a good question! No, most of the time I feel I am stuck here with everyone else, in this timeline. Sometimes what I perceive diverges from those around me, other times it converges. But I think of those as different filters overlaying the same reality; although I don't believe this is the only reality in existence, it does feel like a ride we cannot get off.

[–] amio@kbin.run 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, and if that is a powerful feeling (not "I'm autistic and see things differently", but "normal reality does not apply to me" somehow) then it might be something to check out with a medical professional.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I hope you are a medical professional. Because check it out, I love you.

[–] Zdvarko@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Following on from the previous person's travelling lifestyle and only working when they want to work, and work on things that they want to, I have children young children which makes it a little more difficult. However, there have been times in my life when I've just packed up, jumped in my vehicle and driven wherever. It's very liberating.

This type of thinking may come from my near death accident 23 years ago or maybe it's a personal trait that I've always had, don't know. Personally speaking, believing in the system that's presented to us from a very young age is not healthy for society or yourself, sometimes you just need to embrace the fear of uncertainty and go for it.

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[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, I live in the same reality as everyone else but I feel like my grasp of it is generally more accurate than that of an average person, what ever that means. I see people (myself included) as rather predictable biological "robots" that are pushed around by their primitive wants and emotions while pretending to have agency over all the good things happening to them and blaming the world for all the rest. I don't beliefe in free will in the sense that most people think about it. As in "you could have done otherwise". It's not just a philosophical concept I like but something I truly believe in and live by. There's no going back once you take that pill. You can't help but see the world and people differently after that and I mean it in a good way.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I celebrate your grasp of the real. I love you.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

Pppfff heck yeah.

Pretty good example is my lifestyle.

I travel perpetually. I saved money for several years, invested it, budget the interest, and don't work unless I want to.

For years, when my lifestyle comes up, people often say something like "I wish I could do that" or "I've always wanted to travel". After I say "you definitely can", they ask me how they can do it.

When I explain how simple and cheap it is to work less/travel, they 1) get angry or 2) dismissive.

Their stated goals haven't changed, they still claim to want to travel and stop working, but after hearing that they can do it at any point, they shut down or say "well, maybe one day...", which means that after years of living a lifestyle they're dissatisfied with, they're going to choose to continue their confining lifestyle.

Usually in real life they insist they "could never", but online they seem more comfortable condemning any quick or simple solution to working too much and being depressed/poor/trapped in their life.

Other travelers I meet say the same thing, that they can only travel for a limited time, but the allienation is more stark with people who I know more personally.

I'll go traveling, and each time I visit old friends hear the same "wow, what, how?", then "must be nice" and "I could never" stuff I've heard year after a year from the same people.

I haven't brought up my lifestyle on my own initiative in years because I've experienced over and over how upset people become when they realize that they can take control of their lives at any point and are choosing not to.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 4 months ago (7 children)

So any advice on how to do it? Sounds intriguing. Not that I'd want to have that lifestyle, but still curious.

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