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Here’s how much Google says it’d cost to fulfill Epic’s biggest demands (www.theverge.com)

submitted 4 months ago by neme@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Can't you just... Install the Epic Store separately from Google Play, like we already do with F-Droid?

Installing a store through Google Play sounds pretty stupid when you can easily just install any store's APK independently via the web browser.

They just need a way to let users grant that store the necessary permissions to install and manage apps, which currently requires root but is already doable. They just need to make a UI for it with plenty of warnings about the power this grants. F-Droid happily does its duties and updates my apps in the background and everything like it should, after flashing the privileged extension.

This seems intentionally done by Google to make it look more ridiculous than it needs to be. It doesn't need Google's involvement past adding a permission screen to Android, which is completely independent of Google Play. The ROM communities would get that done under a week most likely.

[–] Grippler@feddit.dk 42 points 4 months ago (3 children)

They just need a way to let users grant that store the necessary permissions to install and manage apps, which currently requires root

No it doesn't? I'm using fdroid to install and manage apps just fine on an Android device without root access.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's a relatively new addition to Android that other app managers can install and update apps without user interaction. Before that you'd have to approve every update manually.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I want to approve every update manually.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I want to approve every update manually.

You can

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 10 points 4 months ago

It doesn't need it, but it does allow it to be more like the Play Store. No need to download then tap install which pops an Android prompt to allow install/update nor any need to allow from unknown sources in settings.

With the privileged extension it's exactly like the Play Store: you tap install and it downloads, installs and updates the apps in the background for you without any prompts. It's technically possible unrooted with some adb hacks, but the privileged extension is the technically proper way to be a store. Without it, it needs that user interaction with the app install popup window to let it through. That's not F-Droid being nice and confirming, that's enforced by Android.

In the context of the article, allowing the user to allow this for any store app, puts every other store on exactly the same ground as Google. The Play Store is not special in any way other than that it has that special store app permission that can only be granted via an XML file on the system partition.

[–] Contort3860@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 4 months ago

Root is usually more for automatic updates and unattended installs. That way it works more like the Play Store.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yes this sounds like a very convoluted way to go about things, but I am not sure if it was the actual verdict that is so badly constructed that it demands this or that Google gives itself and everyone else a lot of unnecessary pain.

Samsung also does auto updates etc and co-exists with the play store on samsung phones (granted, it lives within their android skin), even updates some Google play store (installed) apps, so I am not sure what or where the issue is/lies.

But now Google wants app stores within app stores within app stores as a solution?

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Here's how much Google-Alphabet made by abusing their position.

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 7 points 4 months ago

Aurora store works with google content today