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[–] ZeroCool@vger.social 67 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

“My country is facing a war, and we are facing that hate here. My daughter is traumatized; whenever I open the apartment door, she runs away and hides, telling me she is afraid the lady will come and immerse her head in the water again.”

That's the worst thing I've read all day. No one deserves that kind of trauma, let alone a 3-year-old little girl. I hope the attacker, Elizabeth Wolf, rots in prison.

It's a travesty that she was allowed bail at all. She has already established that she is extremely violent and poses a clear threat to the community and a continued threat to the victim and her family. While police were arresting her, she said, “Tell her I will kill her and I will kill her whole family.” What the fuck does it take to get bail denied in Texas?

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago

What the fuck does it take to get bail denied in Texas?

Threatening a cop as a minority will do it. Outside of that, probably nothing.

[–] GoosLife@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What even is bail anyway? I've never understood this concept. Either you deserve to be in custody, or you don't. And the one singular thing that could never change this is whether you can put money down. Good behavior, maybe. Or a time limit on how long you can be in custody before facing trial. But not a fucking down payment, are you kidding me?

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

Like many things it's a solution to a problem that's now solved in other ways, originally it was really easy to skip town and make a new identity so they had to have enough collateral to know you'll come back - if you're facing two years in jail if you lose the trial or losing 5 years worth of money if you flee it's more likely you'd turn up to court.

I guess it became a money thing at some point, the rich like it because they can avoid the same harsh laws the poor suffer, then lending money became an industry and of course they use some of the money they screw out of poor people to lobby the government to make the system even less fair... plus j imagine all sorts of clever accounting makes use of the money while in the courts hands, probably earns some kickbacks somewhere.

Abolishing it and creating a more sane modern system would be a good thing but it'd be unpopular for many reasons - but we've always done it like this, but we would have a budget hole, but why are they making things easier for criminals when my life is hard / climate change / war / etc... politicians don't deal with issues like this because the voting public would punish them if they did even though the voting public largely agrees and would likely totally agree if they understood it - which they never will because their opposition will find clever ways to make it seem complicated or turn it Into a culture war issue / moral crusade.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

It's to make sure you show up for your actual trial.

Obviously she committed a crime, so she was jailed, but they have to do all the work to put the case together to prove it at trial. During that time, they don't want you to skip town and avoid justice, so they put you in jail. But keeping people in jail is expensive, so you can give them a pinky-promise based on your reputation ("personal recognizance"), or something of value that you get back when the trial happens (bail money).

You can still skip bail, you'll just lose that money, and I'm sure there are additional charges for when they find you.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Sure ought to be easy to prove it's a hate crime. What a horrible, horrible person. What the hell is wrong with people? How can you get yourself to a point where you think it's okay to murder a 3-year-old girl?

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 16 points 4 months ago

Well in all fairness to this racist lady, she was trying to drown the 6yr old brother also, but he got away.

In all seriousness though, you have Trump calling everyone non-white vermun (he says American but his followers know) and how they plan to round them all up Hitler style in November should he win. He even stood behind someone yelling out at his rally that they should start executing "illegals" on the spot. This is only going to become more common place the longer we let dangerous hate language just be spewed by a presidential candidate and his army of puppets, because everything is always "both sides".

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure ought to be easy to prove it’s a hate crime.

Except this is Texas and they don't care about none of your proof 'round those there parts.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Well good news, hate crimes can be prosecuted federally even if she skates on the state charges

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yall know that palestinians are semities right? Its still anti-semitism if youre racist against arabic people.

[–] 555_1@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I doubt that Texan knows the difference between a brown person and a Palestinian. She just knew she wasn’t “American”

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She specifically asked the mum of the victim where she's from

[–] 555_1@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

That lady probably couldn’t point out the Gaza Strip on a map.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To be fair she probably couldnt tell the difference between an israeli or palestinian person.

[–] 555_1@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I usually ask someone if it matters and i have a pretty good sense for it becuase there are a lot of arabic speakers where i live.

[–] 555_1@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yeeesh. Maybe they’re from Delaware.

[–] EmilyIsTrans@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 months ago

I saw this headline earlier, except they chose to exclude any mention that the girl was Palestinian-American, or Muslim (example).

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Attacking a toddler for your hateful, bigoted ideas seems like a completely normal way to get people on your side. /s

Asshole. I'm against punitive incarceration. People who attack children due to bigotry should be punished twice as hard as those attacking people who can defend themselves. The lunacy is unreal. I think the threat to society is obvious.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com -1 points 4 months ago

I’m against punitive incarceration.

Me too. They should execute her.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago