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[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 203 points 3 months ago (11 children)

Fun fact, whether this meme is pro-Israel or pro-Palestine is 100% decided by what date you consider the "start" of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 116 points 3 months ago (6 children)

The history around Gaza and Israel is long and super complicated. The "they hit me first" gets really fucking dumb after like 10 rounds. That's why most people in the west don't support the war, they support leaving people alone. Either the gazans or the Israelites.

War is the ultimate singularity. It's a black hole that sucks up everyone and everything and there's literally no positive to it. So if you have a say in it, the only way to cause less tragedy is to stop it.

On that note, fuck the Hamas for attacking Israel at the festival, and fuck Israel for escalating this into another war.

[–] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, Isreal invented and funded hamas and gave them weapons. So fuck israel.

[–] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Hamas is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. It wasn't "invented" by Israel. And Israel didn't fund them, but it's true that Bibi let Qatar money reach Hamas when he could've blocked it.
The belief among some of the ones who supported that, was that better conditions of life in Gaza would prevent them from going to another war - An article about it from 2015

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[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 3 months ago (5 children)

can i be pro-both, anti-genocide, and think that both of their ruling parties are fucked to shit

I think that much be a popular opinion but WTF is happening there

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[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 21 points 3 months ago

Yeah I was thinking it was pro Palestine until I read the comments and realized it could be interpreted the other way as well...

Idk if the ambiguity was intentional, but it's good lol.

[–] macrocarpa@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] testfactor@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, so you're just gonna ignore how Sarah treated Hagar and lay it all on Ishmael, huh? :P

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[–] waz@lemmy.world 75 points 3 months ago (28 children)

Maybe killing people is the wrong solution.

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

On one hand I totally agree, but on the other I would like to see billionaires on the guillotine.

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 67 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And if I remember correctly Luke was wanting to join the Imperial Academy but his uncle kept him on the hydro farm another year.

Luke was just prior to that even a willing participant of the empire. He wanted to be a pilot, if only to get out of Tatooine.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 56 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Man this post is really some kind of crazy Rorschach test

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Two neighbors were fighting over a financial dispute. They couldn’t reach an agreement, so they took their case to the local rabbi. The rabbi heard the first litigant’s case, nodded his head and said, “You’re right.”

The second litigant then stated his case. The rabbi heard him out, nodded again and said, “You’re also right.”

The rabbi’s attendant, who had been standing by this whole time, was justifiably confused. “But, rebbe,” he asked, “how can they both be right?”

The rav thought about this for a moment before responding, “You’re right, too!”

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I want to interpret it as someone posting not only in support of Palestine, but in warning to Israel that their actions are that of the star wars Empire, and that the rebels did eventually succeed in a massive counterattack

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[–] Rookwood@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago
[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 24 points 3 months ago (19 children)

Yeah, cause it's fiction idiot. You know, the thing where we can have clear cut situations that are entirely black and white. Where one side is entirely evil and the entire one pure good. Reality fucking sucks

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[–] siR_miLLs@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

it's as if we are in an alternate timeline where Luke immediately went to emperor Palpatine and said your cock is the best I've ever seen! let me suck it, and let's do a commercial together about how the empire will save the galaxy, and that you should donate to his reelection.

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

But Tatooine had no oil, so that was completely different.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't know why people seem to be mad that a fictional story can accurately represent real life like we don't already have actual real life examples of the same thing.

Anyone remember Rambo thanking the Mujahideen fighters, which was retracted in future publications.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm really not sure I understand what point he's trying to make. First of all he's equating fiction to reality which is ridiculous at the very least.

But secondly, he took revenge on the people who actually killed his family. As opposed to taking revenge on people that just happened to be in the approximate vicinity of people who killed his family. The Death Star was a military base.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

Both Death Stars were literally weapons of mass destruction. You could not choose a more appropriate military target to blow up

[–] rwhitisissle@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I’m really not sure I understand what point he’s trying to make.

The point is that there exists a fundamental dissonance between events as they transpire in fiction and for which the audience is emotionally invested and those same kinds of events as they happen in real life and the audience's perception of them as they happen in real life.

Star Wars was originally inspired by Lucas's perspective on the Vietnam War. The Storm Troopers are, in that sense, comparable to American forces killing unarmed Vietnamese farmers. Most Americans who saw Star Wars never made that connection because this is in conflict with the audience's internalized notion of "America good" and "America's enemies bad." As such, in watching and enjoying the story of Star Wars, you are ironically investing yourself into a narrative that inverts your normative ideological position. You can extrapolate this onto the current conflict in Ghaza without much effort.

First of all he’s equating fiction to reality which is ridiculous at the very least.

They are not being "equated" - they are being compared. He's making an implied comparison between fictional events and real world current events in order to highlight similarities between the two. Specifically, he's doing a form of comparison called "juxtaposition." Being able to do this is a very basic element of media literacy.

he took revenge on the people who actually killed his family

Well, no, the specific individuals who killed his family were probably the stormtroopers stationed on Tatooine, whom he never actually interacted with. The specific people onboard the Death Star that were not part of the Empire's military high command had virtually nothing at all to do with his family's death.

As opposed to taking revenge on people that just happened to be in the approximate vicinity of people who killed his family. The Death Star was a military base.

The individual in the image literally says that he "immediately joined the armed resistance and literally blew up the enemy base." Not sure what your point is here, unless you're implying that you believe that the Palestinians who are fighting against Israel are only attacking indiscriminate civilian targets and not military ones.

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[–] JulesTheModest@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago

There's also an Orville episode called "Krill", same idea.

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