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    [–] ooterness@lemmy.world 280 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    I saw that happen once in a big presentation.

    There was a team of students presenting their work to ~200 people. Right in the middle, a pop-up says updates are finished and the computer needs to restart. It has a helpful 60-second countdown, but "cancel" is grayed out, so all they can do is watch.

    I was only in the audience and I still have nightmares.

    [–] fluxion@lemmy.world 120 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

    Then it proceeds to take 10 minutes to boot. Happened to me before an important meeting once and i just couldn't believe it. wtf makes Microsoft think they can get away with shit like this?

    [–] Tyoda@lemm.ee 104 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

    Probably that they very obviously are!

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    [–] barsquid@lemmy.world 85 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    They think they can get away with it because they keep getting away with it.

    [–] SeekPie@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
    [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    wtf makes Microsoft think they can get away with shit like this?

    I'd wager a guess it's people dumb enough to constantly put up with shit like this?

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    [–] zcd@lemmy.ca 33 points 5 months ago

    Those kids are still wincing to this day

    [–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    The super duper shitty thing is that they could have canceled it by opening the Run dialog box and typing "shutdown -a", so it's not even like canceling wasn't an option. M$ just decided to be dicks about it

    [–] modifier@lemmy.ca 28 points 5 months ago

    M$ just decided to be dicks about it

    A most concise yet comprehensive company bio.

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    [–] bstix@feddit.dk 127 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    "Don't turn off" is the worst kind of status message.

    When it eventually hangs for various reasons, you actually do need to turn off your pc for it to complete or to let it roll back in an error state.

    When "just hang in there" is still present on the third day you'll start wondering why you bought that piece of furniture and won't mind the consequences of turning it off.

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    [–] z00s@lemmy.world 105 points 5 months ago (29 children)

    This might take several minutes

    ...or itcould take several hours

    [–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 28 points 5 months ago

    Then failed half way through, and needed another hour to "reverse changes".

    [–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago

    It says "several" but I think it means "many", important distinction to make there Microsoft.

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    [–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 94 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Should make that screen the first slide of the PowerPoint

    [–] Eheran@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    One in the middle, including the pop-up notification about a pending restart before that. Hahaha nice

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    [–] Mikina@programming.dev 83 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    My favorite windows update was when I was attending an onsite coding competition hosted my Microsoft. We were all in this large meeting hall that looked like a theater, and we spent first 10 minutes or so at the start of the competition just looking at Windows update, with the Microsoft rep apologizing to us, because his pc decided to do the "Forced update restart you cant postpone any more" literally two minutes into the presentation

    [–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 35 points 5 months ago

    When your dog food tastes like dog food

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    [–] knova@infosec.pub 78 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    That is an MS Teams Room system in the conference room, it runs Windows IOT. Whoever manages those rooms should have set the working hours of the room so it didn’t apply this update during business hours. By default the system updates at 2 or 2:30 AM, I forget... so might be a weird MS bug or someone fudged up a config

    Source - installed a lot of these a few years ago.

    I've always set windows to update around late hours.

    But once in a while, Microsoft ignores that and does updates anyways. Usually just a quick min or two. But it's still annoying.

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    [–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 67 points 5 months ago
    [–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 58 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    You should start your defense saying the same thing.

    [–] Plopp@lemmy.world 60 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    And then just sit silently and spin around and around on the chair for 15 minutes.

    [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

    Unorthodox, but the boldness we need for this brave new world.

    [–] Katana314@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    Much as I always feel Microsoft has made some horrible missteps around automatic updates...I also think many many users are vocally and unabashedly following horrible update policies.

    The biggest one is "Fuck you, Microsoft, I don't ever want to update." A simple truth about Windows is that it is currently the most popular operating system in the world. If that OS was Unix-based, the resulting truth would still be true: The most popular OS is going to be the most common target for vulnerabilities, hacks, malware, and exploits. Far more than an antivirus, keeping that computer up to date is the most important step for keeping it secure.

    This is true not just of computers used to manage your bank account and nuclear launch codes, but of the swarm of "convenience" computers sitting inside a campus network that could spread a virus to everything on the Wi-Fi.

    So, looking at this image, it's a shame on Microsoft moment if this update came from nowhere, or they once again blatantly ignored the configured update time. It's a shame on the campus moment if someone was repeatedly closing the "Time to update" popup.

    [–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (13 children)

    Other systems like ChromeOS and Silverblue do atomic updates in the background and then switch on next restart. No waiting at screens like this. Heck even the conventional Linux update system, while far from foolproof, doesn't require waiting like this.

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    [–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    The issue is some updates don’t contain just security fixes, but rather privacy invading features and advertising that make the OS shittier.

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    [–] Grumpydaddy@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] Rooki@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Its the final boss.

    You need to fight the windows update!

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    [–] HStone32@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago (18 children)

    The longer I use Linux, the harder it becomes to see where windows users are coming from. Its gotten to the point where seeing people use windows in public feels incomprehensible to me, like watching people go to work on a pogo stick instead of a car.

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    [–] PineRune@lemmy.world 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Every day, my work computers force a shutdown-update, take 20 minites, fail the update, recover from the failed update, and then force a 24-hour timer to do it again that I can't turn off. IT doesn't care.

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    [–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 31 points 5 months ago (12 children)
    [–] CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee 72 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    This is why you check your equipment before any important events

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    [–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    This looks like a public office space. You really gonna go argue with the building admin?

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    "Hey boss, the display in the corner office automatically updated. Can we get IT to switch everything to Linux?"

    [–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    "why would we do that? Our systems don't work on that, our people aren't trained on that, no, get back to work"

    I think that would be a pretty accurate reply to a casual request for an entire infrastructure change

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    [–] Bumblefumble@lemm.ee 29 points 5 months ago

    I had windows do a large update in the middle of an exam once. Like the major version number changes or something, took probably like an hour and a half. I was quite lucky with the exact timing and the fact that I am usually able to finish exams quickly as I did end up having half an hour for the exam, but it did make the whole situation a bit more spicy than necessary.

    [–] growingentropy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 5 months ago

    That's the least of your worries. Once it reboots, its proprietary spyware...errr...AI...will resume taking screenshots of everything you do.

    [–] Artyom@lemm.ee 24 points 5 months ago

    Depending on how the windows network is set up, this may happen every time someone logs in

    [–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 months ago

    Good luck on your defense! Goodspeed

    [–] thefrankring@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Windows disagrees with the thesis.

    [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    So did the rest of the committee.

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    [–] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Today's thesis is an improv on why windows sucks.

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