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[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 29 points 3 months ago

They're completely unhinged and detached from reality, the rule of law, and democracy.

And this is a surprise to absolutely no one.

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully the capitol police has been trained since they were overwhelmed by a hoard of chuds and geriatrics 4 years ago.

Still to this day the only time I've ever seen riot control tools used to spec instead of fired in volleys at head level.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

spec

Sorry, what do you mean by spec? Spec ops was the closest I could find.

[–] Axefanatic@aussie.zone 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not OP but it usually means to specification, ie as per specified standards/procedures.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think you are correct. To spec made me think spec was being used as a verb. But it's definitely to specification as in used as intended. My bad. edit: typo

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Man, it's been wild seeing fascism growing over the past decade. I mean, it was always around, but it's really gotten worse. The trouble is I have no idea how you would even begin to resolve the issue.

Like you have people wanting to kill American liberals (which is hilarious because politically the American democrats are not even close to being leftist or the big boogieman, "communist").

It really seems like you have a very large group of uneducated and violent people who think Trump will allow them to fulfill their fantasies of control over others. The pain in the ass is that their ideology is spreading globally.

[–] remington@beehaw.org 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

...I have no idea how you would even begin to resolve the issue.

For now, we must encourage all of the younger people to vote. The younger people are, understandably, frustrated by the current American political system. It can be changed with more participation over time. Doing nothing (not voting, etc.) just worsens the problem.

The far right GOP knows all of this and makes it difficult for anyone to vote. They use tactics such as gaslighting in order to cheat their way into office.

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 6 points 3 months ago

That would hopefully prevent a bad government, but I'm not sure how to actually resolve the ideological issue. People who hold those beliefs won't stop believing them. At least not quickly.

I'm not sure how you would make them see reason and reduce extremist beliefs. Otherwise, we're just constantly trying to deal with a sick population

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 17 points 3 months ago

Rules for thee but not for me.

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

What has baffled me the most since yesterday was a vox pop airing on a local (canadian) channel. The journalist had travelled shortly south of the border to Plattsburgh, which is historically blue but has recently been more tight. How the casual Trump supporters remained unfazed was chilling.

One slick office lady explained calmly how the recent judicial events did not relate to Trump’s proposed politics and that therefore it didn’t change her voting intention. Another woman would explain how she prefers to vote for someone honest who speaks his mind, someone that was never involved in politics, so that’s why she’s still intending to vote for Trump (her husband had voted for Biden last election and had apparently regretted it).

It’s somehow way more shocking to witness some very average sounding and looking person make so little sense. Is it the average American news sources messing with people’s minds that much?

[–] remington@beehaw.org 17 points 3 months ago

Is it the average American news sources messing with people’s minds that much?

I'd estimate that 98% of American news sources are either very biased or straight up propaganda machines. I can only rely on National Public Radio and The Associated Press.

[–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago

It's really baffling and sad.

[–] coffeetest@beehaw.org 3 points 3 months ago

What's the media going to report on? Outrage click bait or someone average saying average things? Not to say extremist are not real but extremists are disproportionately reported compared to majority views which skews our perceptions. How much is done on purpose or as a result of the news business, I can't judge but biased sources pick up on the parts they like and amplify them or even manipulate them to tell the story that want to tell.

I do truly believe that for the vast majority of people, we are closer in that the things we collectively believe than we do not. But it doesn't take many devoted people to whip up a mindless mob.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 11 points 3 months ago

Yeah you try that. Your trial isn't going to take 4 years.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think they should. Each one of them won't be able to vote and they get some fresh labor for the jails.

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 1 points 3 months ago

The US police force is full of sociopaths. But I like to believe that there are at least a few sincere officers in there. They are the ones who are really going to pay for such acts. The Capitol Hill insurrection is a good example.

[–] maculata@aussie.zone 2 points 3 months ago

So much intelligent chat from these totally free-thinking sorts. Not culty at all.

[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 2 points 3 months ago

Considering most of them are aging boomers and gen-x, I don't see that going too well. What are they going to do? Toss their Molotov cocktails and throw their backs out? Hobble down the street in their walkers and mobility scooters? Ridiculous.