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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 57 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Without watching the video, Canonical are doing their best to get Ubuntu there.

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Omg i just tried 24.04 in a vm for testing. I really hate the direction they’re taking gnome. I know they’re trying this minimalist thing, but it’s horrendous. I’ve been gone for a few releases, and this is the first time I’ve used Ubuntu and thought “this is garbage”. Like it’s become so dumbed down.

Maybe my tastes have changed, I dunno

[–] palordrolap@kbin.social 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

GNOME and its applications have been headed in that direction for a while now, but I'm not sure Canonical are behind those changes. If they were, I'm sure they would have done something about GNOME apps looking alien on Xubuntu, for example.

Source

As that link suggests, the Mint team are looking to produce apps that run on any desktop environment, forking GNOME apps that don't comply with that. Hopefully that keeps the momentum going for that sort of thing.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Ooh. I have noticed that some apps like gnome-disk-utility runs without the whole Gnome stack. I think that's a really good direction.

[–] VeryImportantUser@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)
  • The first was the amazon sponsored search. But that was a few years ago.
  • Constantly it's Canonical's not invented here syndrome where they don't work with others to do new stuff but instead opt to push their own solutions which often fail.
  • Snap's dependency on a proprietary store backend.
  • And the latest is locking some security updates behind a mandatory Ubuntu Pro account.

Nothing quite as bad as what Microsoft is doing with Windows. But not really in the great fluffy open source spirit either.

Luckily thanks to open source nobody is forced to put up with any of that.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago

My goddaned xterm is lagging, like wtf. Literally logged into a virtual machine for work several hundred miles away running commands through some weird-ass windows SSH terminal software on a server several thousand miles away from the virtual machine and it lags less than the term on my local machine. I've moved from vim to vscode it's so painful.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Android. It would look like Android.

[–] ares35@kbin.social 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

see also: chromebook's chromeos

[–] tsonfeir@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Google Fuchsia quietly enters the chat

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Fuchsia isn't a variant of Linux.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 28 points 5 months ago

Forked, but also Ubuntu.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I really enjoy how his videos get recycled already. He‘s pretty unique both in the fediverse, on youtube and in the linux sphere as he makes high quality content, is knowledeable in linux and cares about r2r and open source.

Thats like 3 jackpots in a row. This guy is as underrated as one can imagine.

[–] dkc@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I stopped watching Linux YouTubers after the Red Hat/CentOS Stream/Rocky controversy that happened recently. There were so many clickbait videos with a poor understanding of the problem just trying to make a buck off the communities anger and spreading disinformation .

The Linux Experiment handled it the best and had the most nuanced thought out view on the issue. This is despite us ultimately having different conclusions. My only complaint about his coverage is that if you visit his personal website he has some extreme views on ethics, including believing that investing in the stock market is unethical. I felt he should have been more upfront of that in his videos before sharing his views on the ethics of a company like Red Hat.

I’ll still watch some of his videos on occasion if they get picked up here and I believe him to be the most honest of the many Linux YouTubers. That being said I wouldn’t hold any of them in high regard. Many of their videos are sloppy, have clickbait titles, contribute very little, are are just trying to get ad revenue from you as much as Linus Tech Tips is.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the elaborate answer. I can see all of your points as far as I‘m knowledgeable in them. The red had details are a bit out of my sphere but the rest I can grasp.

I have not seen his views concerning the stock market but in general I agree that the system is broken and rigged and ideally, we should get rid of it since it perverts all the efforts of hard working people to serve those with the most money and least empathy.

But besides this, I do think we need high quality (production) content in the fediverse as to both boost its popularity and make it easy to stay off youtube for those very hooked on regular talking heads in their lives.

Linus was dead to me when he „took“ the production sample and auctioned it off. Everything after that is not my concern.

But channels like gamersnexus, jayz2cents, networkchuck, jeffgeerling and co provide fun pastime with some tech input. If they decided to mirror on peertube I‘d probably support them.

Have a good one.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

100%. If any of us can think quickly of things that publicly traded companies regularly do that we hate. Investing in the stock market and publicly traded companies is unethical. Because the nature of being publicly traded inevitably means that they will all do those sort of behaviors. Whether it's companies ignoring IP and not allowing others any way of developing or continuing it. No matter how much they promise to pay said company Etc. Or gobbling up and laying off teams of Developers just to eat more of their IP. I'm sure plenty of us can think of plenty of things that publicly traded companies do that we absolutely hate. But every one of them is obligated to behave that way.

And on the youtuber recommendations you're spot on. Geerling lacks a little charisma. But as a fellow resident of the state of misery we gotta stick together. And I definitely enjoy his content. I still watch ltt. But I don't blame anyone who doesn't. The thing that differentiates all the ones you mentioned from ltt however, is the size. Ltt blew up, Linus and his wife hadn't been able too manage it properly for some time. Jay, tech Jesus etc have teams working for them. But they are so much smaller and more focused than ltt. Hell even MKB is. Their hiring of a proper CEO I think will help in the long term. Though it might not win back those they lost.

[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

I don't really see a whole lot of difference in opinion about Linux itself among the various Linux YouTubers I watch, TBH, nor do I see much difference in honesty in that regard, but I do appreciate Linux Experiment quite a bit for having the most focus on the "average computer user" compared to the others who so often get deep into the technical side of things and put a larger amount of focus on high-level stuff for IT professionals. I just want to find some cool FOSS software and DE features for stuff like media, office software, email and privacy/security. I don't need hour-long deep dives into the latest distro vs distro or GitHub drama, or in-depth comparisons of the minutiae of different terminals and programming languages for development/networking/so on that most "average computer users" like me are rarely, if ever, going to use. Not that such information doesn't have value, but it just doesn't have much value to me specifically.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 13 points 5 months ago

STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS AAAAA

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"In order to play Call of Overwatch: Valorant Warfare 69 on Linux, you must install this DKMS ~~rootkit~~ module, which is only compatible with the Microsoft Lindows 13 Linux distribution."

[–] dabu@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I like the E corp logo

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

LOL. Those raid ads baked into the OS were just a cherry on top.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Just ask Apple

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

So they already wrote Musk's Linux version for him. Always ahead of the curve, aren't we?

[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago

It looks like it’s dying