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plant based alternatives are pretty good for reducing calories or inflammation in my experience.

Ultra processed foods are unsurprisingly (but disappointingly) still bad.

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[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 25 points 5 months ago (11 children)

I'll never get behind that term ultraprocessed. It typically means that a lot of ingredients were combined with specific physical and chemical reactions to create something new.

But think about what happens inside a chicken. You put in corn, soy, insects, water, give it air to breathe. Then it will first use its beak to physically break everything into smaller pieces. Then, it will use highly complex chemistry, enzymes etc. to first digest and then - again using highly complex processing - rearrange all these aminoacids, fat etc. into meat, eggs etc.

And the chicken isn't even the first step of the chain. The worm, the soy and the corn already did plenty of crazy processing before that.

It's not processing or chemistry in general that decides about healthy or unhealthy. There's specific stuff that makes food healthy or unhealthy.

In processed meat you find a lot of added nitrates which can turn into nitrosamines which are known to be cancerous. In vegan substitues it's as far as I know mostly sugar and fat that make them unhealthy.

Btw. also because because something is 'natural' doesn't mean it's healthy by default. There are countless poisonous plants and animals that can easily kill you if you eat them just once. And also 100% natural food can be dangerous if consumed in high amounts, e.g. brazil nuts (radio active!), red meat, salt, ...

[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Exactly, they never quite explain what “processing” is, or why it’s bad. Just makes me think of people that say “chemicals” as if they are automatically a bad thing. It’s like, dude… water is a chemical!

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