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It's been difficult to broach the subject and explain the technical concepts to the average person. I did have some success in first sharing the email comparison, which lead into interoperability.

I'm just curious to hear people's success stories, if you have any.

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That level you describe also exists -- instances are self-policing their users, though it's an admin thing, not a mod one (mods are for communities).

lemm.ee just posted some numbers for the year and after kbin.social, which seems to get many spam accounts, they're mostly banning lemm.ee users for misbehaving. No great need to ban .world users because .world admins are keeping their own ship clean, "are your users a bother to me" is a big factor in federation politics.

OTOH not giving communities the ability to police themselves would leads to problems because the only way to deal with anything would be to choose the nuclear option: You might get heated in a discussion about your favourite comic book character and lash out, calling people names, but otherwise be perfectly reasonable, the mods temp-banning you from their community is the right approach, there, not making you switch instances, or depriving others of the furry porn you post to the same instance as the comic community is on, or whatnot.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying thats mods/admins shouldn't have the ability to ban you from their community. Temporarily or permanently.

I'm saying that, to take your example, you get into a heated debate over a comic book. And the mod or admin there bans you. Not from their community, not from their instance, but from ALL of Lemmy.

That's what I think shouldn't happen. I don't think ANY admin or mod should be able to ban you from the whole platform. They can certainly ban you from their space, but not from all spaces at once.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They can't ban you from the whole platform it just so happens if some admin wants you gone chances are your home instance admin wants you gone, too.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Alright, now if your home instance mod bans you, you can then still log in, and move your account to a different instance then, right?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

I'm not exactly sure but often the whole comment history is nuked so there's really nothing left to migrate.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

They already can't do that