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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 59 points 5 months ago (7 children)

What do they even want a war over? Some perceived slight from the left they’ve been told democrats do? Like, they want a war against an imaginary enemy.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What do they even want a war over?

To enforce the social heirarchy that they feel was stolen from them; typical reactionary demands.

There's a bunch of minorities getting "uppity" that these dipshits want to put in their place.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 months ago

So many of them honestly believe they should be making six figures and sitting in corner offices. They have not done anything to earn this, just think it’s deserved.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They literally believe the election was stolen, and we are in the shadow world now.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 months ago

This viewpoint is actually correct, it's just about Bush v Gore in 2000 that is the lesser known part

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The answer is fifty years old.

Back in the day, sociologist Alvin Toffler wrote a series of books about the coming shift from The Industrial Age to the Digital Era.

"Future Shock" said that a lot of people would feel displaced by the new technologies and social changes. As the world moved forward they were going to try harder and harder to cling to the past.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I mean that's in there, but the real issues we're facing right now are the same exact issues that we've seen topple democracies across the world for the last couple centuries.

People are being radicalized to support a system that benefits the stakeholders at the very top who are trying to secure a lasting empire of wealth and power by manufacturing hate and culture war with invented enemies. I can point to examples of this happening over and over as a prelude to authoritarian takeover, from Germany and Italy in the 30's all the way on through recent "strongman" elections in places like the Philippines and Argentina, and a wealth of famous stories in between.

You can certainly talk about the role of society shifting around development and technology, but the heart of the issue is human greed and desire for power, as it has always been, as it will always be. People aren't out there scared of immigrants and voting their rights away because they understand how AI is going to threaten their jobs, they're terrified of brown people because FOX news implied that the scary foreigners and trans kids are going to take away everything that makes America feel like a stable home, and that people asking for kindness and empathy are actually literal baby-eating demons.

[–] Beetlejuice001@lemmy.wtf 3 points 5 months ago

Excellent summary. The 1% have created this culture war and push the propaganda for it constantly.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They don't even cling to the past accurately. They constantly act as though America was a better country the closer to 1776 to travel back in time, even though by every conceivable metric the whole world was worse.

And one of their leading election conspiracies is the fact that the election wasn't decided by midnight on election day in 2020, where they insist that elections have always been decided same-day, even back when the primary form of communication between states was letters carried by horse, and it literally took literally weeks to send a letter from one coast to the other and get a response back.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

One poster was complaining about criminal immigrants. Got angry when I pointed out that most of the British and French colonists were indentured servants; the gutter sweepings of the cities thrown into ships. The French even made their men marry prostitutes to populate the New World.

[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They want Dominionism — Christian government, Christian rule.

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Until they get it and find out they're still someone's bitch. Only now there's less they can do about it.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

Indistinguishable from Shariah Law, which they hate, not because they disagree with it, but because they hate Arabs.

He just wants a war. Any reason will do. He sounds like a real nutter in the article. He doesn't really have a core manifesto.

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Some of them at least want an end to the "occupation" (last I checked they still had elections for the confederacy)