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Microsoft's announcement: "We are introducing a new Game Pass recommendation card on the Settings homepage. The Game Pass recommendation card on Settings Homepage will be shown to you if you actively play games on your PC. As a reminder – the Settings homepage will be shown only on the Home and Pro editions of Windows 11 and if you’re signed into Windows with your Microsoft account."

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 64 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Ethically, if not legally, this is terrible, as are all other steps Microsoft has taken to force ads onto your computer.

Seriously, think about it. You own the hardware, right? And the OS is present to run the hardware, right? To do that, it needs to be able to perform various tasks without your specific approval, and that's fine, but using your bandwidth to download advertisements in the background, then using your computing cycles to force them in front of your eyes regardless of what you're using the computer for, is awfully questionable. I would go so far as to say it's a form of theft.

And no, ads on websites aren't comparable. You, the user, are actively opting to view a web page that carries ads. You are choosing to grant them access to your eyeballs and the resources used by your browser. But nobody is actively seeking to view ads through their operating systems, and they don't get anything in return (such as the content you went to that website for).

[–] stardustsystem@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You want to advertise to me in the OS? Don't charge me $200 for the OS then!!

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The funny thing is, there isn’t even really a free OS with ads. At least none that I know of. Linux is open source and thus usually non commercial. Worst case you get a "please donate" the first time you log in. macOS is technically free (although you kinda subsidize it through the hardware, I suppose) and it doesn’t have ads and even chrome OS is ad free afaik. It’s really only Windows and some Android flavours, usually those running on very cheap chinese devices. And Samsung of course.

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Ubuntu has ads, or at least takes money to have shortcuts to Amazon and the like

Edit: I might be wrong here, please read the replies

[–] unautrenom@jlai.lu 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To my knowledge, this hasn't been the case for nearly a decade, after the backlash they received specifically for it.

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Thank you, I haven't used Ubuntu for nearly a decade 😅 I've updated my comment suggesting people look at the replies

[–] sag@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago
[–] accideath@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Ah right. Count on canonical to make my point moot.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago

Historical truth not active truth.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

IIRC macOS will sometimes beg you to subscribe for more iCloud disk space. Far better than Windows, but still an ad.

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah and Apple TV, Apple Music, and care plan advertising. It's not as in your face though.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

It’s less begging than a "Your iCloud storage is full. Want some more?" which is fair in my books.

[–] lemmy_user_838586@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

This is what finally got me to switch to Linux years ago. Back when Virtual machines were relatively new I was messing around with them and hated having to scrounge for windows licenses to use in the VM's. (Back then you had to enter the CD Key to begin installing the OS, they didn't have trial periods, or 'activate later' options) started using Linux in VM's to try it out, and boom 15 years later, I'm never going back.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's interesting is that they haven't been enforcing antipiracy all that heavily.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Maybe they're making more money now from ads shown in pirated copies of Windows than they do from actually selling Windows.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can install any Linux distro other than Ubuntu if you don't want ads in your operating system.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wasn't gonna say it, but yeah... I've been using Linux exclusively on my personal systems for more than 10 years. Every time I have to use Windows, it's almost physically painful. How the hell do people put up with that crap?

[–] stardustsystem@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

They don't want to learn how to use their computer all over again. Some people really do prefer the devil they know

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago

I couldn't look the same at Windows after about two weeks on Linux. Seriously, Windows is THIS bad.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Makes a body want to just pirate the absolute shit out of MS operating systems, doesn’t it?

On an unrelated note, I’ll just leave this here.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They wouldn't need to show ads if everyone just used Edge, bought Office365 and played Xbox games.

This is a problem caused by the users.

  • Microsoft, probably
[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People is actively opting to use a shitty OS like Windows. The easiest solution is using another OS.

I hate saying this but at this point MacOS is even better in that regard, but my preferred choice is GNU/Linux.

Obviously, in your personal computer you have the freedom to choose an OS that fits your needs, in a enterprise/work enviroment this is harder because the company using Windows is the one who should consider changing the OS to avoid this shit, if possible.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most people are actually passively opting for Windows.

Computers just come with it, or if somebody install it for them, Windows is the default expectation.

MacOS comes with very expensive Apple computers, and most people just choose Windows. The idea of Linux either never crosses their mind, they may not be aware of its existence, or think it's some geeky server thing.

Most people opting for Windows, thereby, don't make a rational decision between Windows, Linux, MacOS, FreeBSD or whatever. For them, Windows is just how computer works.

[–] stardustsystem@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's like back in the day when everyone used Internet Explorer for their web browser. There's little to nothing in the marketplace indicating to them that an alternative exists in the first place, let alone that they could switch to it.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago