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Is he though? Sure, he's great in his roles, but his mannerisms and personality pretty much stay the same regardless of the role. Someone like Gary Oldman, or Ed Norton are far better actors IMO. They disappear into their roles.
I think these two particular roles had a lot of mannerism overlap. That, and it was the same director in a similarly genred historical fiction revenge thriller. In Alita: Battle Angel and Downsizing, he's playing different roles. Its just a shame the material doesn't hold up to his talent for the roles.
But I'll also note that Gary Oldman, in particular, really goes ham with the physical transformation. From slick terrorist in Air Force One to manic ex-con in Harry Potter to... Jesus Christ look at all those facial prostheses in Darkest Hour, its not just the acting but the degree to which he's willing to physically change himself to fit the part.
Matthew McConaughey and Christian Bale pull this as well, to really intense effect.
Christian Bale is definitely committed to his transformations. A lot of times I still see him in his roles, but he thoroughly sold me on his method acting ability in The Big Short. Holy shit, man! That was like watching a completely different person on the screen.
I saw Christian Bale and transformation and I was convinced you were going to bring up The Machinist, he lost a lot of weight for that role.
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Yeah that is one of the examples of him being incredibly committed to his transformations. But I felt that The Big Short really made him stand out as an actor, since the character has such a completely different personality than all of his other characters, and he totally nails it, even with the little quirks.
After that role he bulked up to play Bruce Wayne then had to lose weight again because he bulked up too much.
Yeah Christian Bale in the Machinist is something else.
Both his most famous roles have a similar way of speaking because the roles are pretty much the same. The efficient and precise German. The genre is also the same. I've seen a german comedy of his where he is completely different.
What's that one called? I'd like to see it.
Gott des Gemetzels. It's pretty good, but the type of movie we had to watch in German class.
I'm only seeing that its original language was English. Did you watch it dubbed in your class?
No way. It actually was filmed in English. I did not notice. Walz dubs his own stuff himself. I do faintly remember the movie taking place in France although the actual location was never mentioned I think.
It plays in NYC.
One of my favourite movies of all time.
Wait what. Ok I'm done. I'm going to delete my account I can't recover from this. The movie seemed good tho and my point still stands. Christoph Walz does not play the German stereotype and his performance is different from his stereotypical German roles.
Thank you! I'll check it out.
I think it's more his expressions, like the tiny details that make you feel like he's really the person he's playing on the screen. Regardless of makeup or physical change, this is noticeable in how Tarantino told him to hold back during rehearsals to really bring out his costars' reactions in the final take of various scenes. That has nothing to do with what the character is or what he's wearing or his physical condition.
I didn't even know Gary Oldman was both Sirius Black and Commissioner Gordon until like 5 years after those movies came out.
Go see his other roles. Zorg, for instance.
Jean Baptiste. Emmanuel. Zorg.
CORBINDALLASMOOLTYPASS!
I’ll tell you what I do like though: a killer, a dyed-in-the-wool killer.
How many movies have you seen him in to make a fair comparison?
His best known roles are very similar, true, but there's more to being a great actor than just having a lot of range.
Only 3 so far. Basterds, the Django one, and Alita. I feel like I've probably seen him elsewhere in smaller roles, but I can't name one, so I'll stick with three.