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I just saw that lemmy.ml has pre-emptively defederated from threads. Are there any plans to do that here? I personally want nothing to do with Meta/Facebook, and I'm sure that's not an unpopular opinion around here.

edit: y'all, please pay attention to where you are when coming from all.

edit again: kbin really ought to make a post's home instance more clear.

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[–] andrewrgross 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sort of tired of talking about this, particularly because it's all academic: they don't offer any federated instance currently to defederate from. But I want to clarify my reasoning.

My point is NOT that we should "gIvE tHeM a ChANce!" We all know they are run by greedy, exploitative, untrustworthy people.

My point is that I think our response should be rooted in causes and effects rather than vibes. If they offered a federated instance that I had friends on, I'd want to be able to see my friends posts and have them see mine. And if Facebook then tried to find ways to push ads to a remote instance, then we'd obviously defederate. Because that's an appropriate tool to correct a specific harm.

That's all I'm saying. Currently, Facebook has no means of affecting my experience on this instance, so I don't care whether we preemptively reject them from federating. The moment that they DO affect my experience, they'll obviously be booted. That's good enough for me.

[–] Celediel 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My point is that I think our response should be rooted in causes and effects rather than vibes.

I gotta be perfectly honest here; if despite all the discussion that's happened in this thread, you can still say something like this, then I really don't think anything we've said has really gotten through to you, and I too "tire of talking about this."

[–] andrewrgross 1 points 1 year ago