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[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like you are exactly getting the "money is fake" one

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Right but what point is it trying to make by pointing it out?

Yes, money is a social construct, but it's a construct that represents something real, i.e. trade. Without money we'd replace it with something else, but it ultimately comes down to the same thing.

Like, I can understand the perfect world without landlords or billionaires and so on, but what's this perfect world look like that has no currency?

[–] LibertyLizard 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Typically societies without money historically operated in what’s called a gift economy. Basically most goods were shared amongst the community. However there are very few remaining today.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Money is fiat currency. Literally a stand in for something with actual value. Money holds no intrinsic value. You can't eat it, you can't breathe it or use it in anyway except to trade for things that do have actual intrinsic value. The only thing money allows humans to do is go into debt. That debt has created a society with insane leaps and bounds in innovation, but the cost is that it's a ponzi scheme that will collapse spectacularly.

[–] poVoq 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Only if you treat debt as something absolute that has to be repaid no matter what.

In reality in many cases debt is written off as impossible to claw back and sold off to unscrupulous debt enforcement companies at a fraction of the nominal value. Who in turn also rarely manage to get the money.

We as society could simply decide to forget certain types of debt and basically that is what states do via inflation and which historically many societies have done via debt jubilees.

The book "Debt the first 5000 years" gives good overview on this matter and fiat currencies in general.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago

use it in anyway

You mean 'any way', right?