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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 233 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Big ups to those people who “voted against genocide”.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 129 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Special shout-out to the folks that voted third party because "my state will be blue"

[–] TheBraveSirRobbin@lemmy.world 86 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I thought my state would go blue. Went out to vote anyway and voted blue. Brought my spouse out to vote as well. Our state did not go blue. Country is fucked

[–] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

folks that voted third party because "my state will be blue"

Admittedly not all the votes are in, but...

  • Pennsylvania - Trump up by 130k votes, Jill Stein got 33k votes
  • Michigan - Trump up by 84k votes, Jill Stein got 45k votes
  • Wisconsin - Trump up by 28k votes, Jill Stein got 12k votes

Are all Jill Stein votes from protest voters? Nah, there are diehard Green supporters out there.

Are there other 3rd party candidates? Of course, but how many RFK (more votes than Stein in WI) voters could she have converted? Almost none.

This was her blue wall road to victory, show me the electoral path to victory ruined by third party voters who would have otherwise voted Democrat.

This election was lost by people not showing up to vote. Trump is sitting at almost 72M votes right now compared to 74M in 2020. Harris is only at 67M now, compared to Biden's 81M in 2020. While there are still votes to count, there aren't 15M votes left to count.

Whether it was lack of interest, protest, or whatever reason, 10% of voters stayed home this year.

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My election registration got canceled three times this year. The last two times it was because of a "duplicate", and they were counting my canceled registrations as duplicates. I have no idea if my ballot got counted, or if it was discarded.

I vote blue in one of those red states...

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

Similar here actually. I usually try to vote by mail, but by the time I finally got registeration and residency handled after 2 online registrations and two visits to the elections office, early voting was over, so I had to go to the polls on election day

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Write to the white house and ask them to investigate it as fraud. Because there was shenanigans pulled in red states for that.

Americans overseas had their ballots challenged in Pennsylvania and there is still a lawsuit over that.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I blame the Stein voters exactly as much as I blame the people staying at home. And neither as much as the people who voted for Trump.

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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

A good chunk of biden voters then were shepherded in by Bernie since Biden ended up compromising with Bernie for the transition.

Imagine if Harris threw a bone to the left. Those are some of the 15 million who stayed home.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

No state had enough third party votes to flip red to blue had they all gone blue, so can we give this a rest?

The DNC failed, plain and simple.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

And Pennsylvania and Georgia. The so-called swing states really took a wild swing this time.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Got me there, though if you look and tally only the left candidates who might've actually gone for Harris otherwise it's still not true.

And in any case, she still loses even if she got these states.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

But they wanna blame someone who doesn't impact anything! Why blame a bad campaign when you can blame 0.03% of the voters!

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It was a good campaign. Maybe it could have been even better, sure, but the amount of Monday night quarterbacking in here is silly.

The only thing I can question about it, I'm not even sure about.

The problem wasn't anything the campaign did. The problem was that "did joe Biden drop out" was trending on Google the day of the election. Tell me how to reach those people.

Do you think there weren't enough ads? Not enough door knocking? What exactly, would you have them do?

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

No it was an objectively bad campaign. Harris should have run as a change candidate and distanced herself from Biden. That was the whole point of getting him to drop out. He was less popular than Trump

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No state had enough third party votes to flip red to blue had they all gone blue, so can we give this a rest?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I actually think people who think any part of politics is "plain and simple" are the real problem.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"The real problem" sounds pretty plain and simple that.

Seriously though what are you saying? What's the point of that statement?

They failed, that's plain and simple. The cause behind that? Probably more complicated.

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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Third party votes were pretty much at their average. Except in Deerborn Michigan, but that’s still not enough to flip Michigan and I can’t blame Muslim voters there from being pissed.

They should be pissed. We all should be pissed.

[–] margaritox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What if my state is California?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] margaritox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It doesn’t matter. Point is, some states will, without a question, vote blue.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

So you voted third party and don't want to admit you helped Trump win. Nice

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[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Taking the data from here and throwing it in a spreadsheet, Trump got more votes than everyone else combined, including the Libertarian party, RFK Jr, and Write-ins.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Looking at that chart, she would have won in Wisconsin and gotten their ten electoral votes.

What does it look like for the rest of the states?

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Across the country, it was Trump: 71,825,780 Everyone else: 69,303,000

It says at the top of the page it was last updated a day ago, but I kind of doubt the numbers will change too dramatically.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

67m for Harris to 72m (rounded up) on the BBC; it was really not close eh.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Biden got 81.2 million.

How the fuck are people not voting. After all that.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago
[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

How the fuck are people not voting.

Massive voter suppression, and propaganda.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The other person was making the point that you can't do it by total popular vote, you have to do it by state and then look at their electoral college votes.

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[–] Darorad@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Honestly, it doesn't matter, even if every single 3rd party voter went for Harris, Trump still wins

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Now count those that didn’t vote at all.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

Some of them tried but state shenanigans prevented their ballot from counting.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But how else will they blame anyone but themselves?

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

The meme is literally how else.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I heard halo polish is on sale at Walmart, they should check it out.