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So, place your bets! What's going to be that one announcement that suddenly makes your neighbours go all quiet?
Yes, some of these are fearmongering but he's made all sorts of promises and debts are due! The sky is the limit!
If you think any or all of these is going to finally get a Trump supporter to lose faith, then you failed to learn the lesson that 2016 should've taught you, and yesterday should've reminded you of - they will never lose faith. He could tell them to literally kill their own kids and they'd just say "Oh, like what God told Abraham! I'll get right on it, my Lord!"
Doesn't matter if they lose faith or not.
As each of these things comes to pass, as I ride this flaming dirigible into the hard earth rushing up at us, at the very least I'm going to spend that time telling the magas in my life that this is their fucking fault at every available opportunity.
That's the kind of spite-filled journey I can absolutely get behind
And a third of Americans still won't go vote against him.
The deportation is gonna come first. Military aid is America's bread an butter. Shutting down of news outlets will be "official acts". Democrats imprisoned will be an "official act"
That'll be the first year
And between now and January, Biden will never decide to make imprisoning Trump and his people an "official act" so the snowball has started rolling.
He's caught in a catch-22 with that idea; if he uses his expanded powers he may well spark another civil war, but if he doesn't, we face possible (perhaps even likely) conversion to a fascist dictatorship. I'd honestly prefer breaking up the country to the alternative.
One of the problems with that is that there isn't a geographical divide like the last time (north vs. south). Unfortunately, I live in a red area of California. Are we going to build a wall around our county? The major city in our county is a bit more liberal. How would that work?
Agreed, there's no easy geographical divide, making this all the more messy. I'd guess that such a partition would result in three countries (Northeast, South&Central, and West), but it would likely take a very bloody war first. I wish I knew how we could do it sanely. It's a pipe dream, I know, but one that I'd like to believe is possible.
The Republic of New England, the Pacific States of America, and Sherman's Regret.
That's a good season ender for this shit show
*day
To annex it for Russia?
Well he's not going to do it for the benefit of the ukrainians is he.
No, but I think a more likely scenario is that he simply abandons Ukraine. I don't think he cares about it either way, so why would he send any troops? He'll just ignore what is happening there and that's it.
Nah, he'll do it because Putin wants it and he'll get a "massive trade deal" out of it.
Remember, our only duty now is to NEVER LET THEM LIVE THIS DOWN.
If any Nazi I know suddenly feels remorse I will straight up tell them to shut the fuck up and that i never want to hear remorse from them.
I'm going full no-contact on the conservative side of my family indefinitely.
Yeah I would say active shunning is an understandable way to go about this. We tried educating people to not guzzle the kool-aid, they clearly personally desired to do it anyways.
You forgot: removal of legal protections for workers AND reduce minimum age for working
And what's with this woke anti-slavery law?
Bye bye unions and overtime
Don't forget what RFK might do in charge of public health. A federal vaccine ban is a nonzero possibility.
They're gonna start injecting the kids with whale juice instead
You get a brain worm, and you get a brain worm. Everybody gets a brain worm!
Play along at home!
None of these things will change the minds of the people who support Trump. Humans, sadly, have an aversion to anything that threatens their beliefs. We have a law that says a convicted felon can't vote in an election, and yet, no law to prevent that same felon from running for, and winning political office. The founding fathers, likely, never imagined a convicted felon would run for office, and even moreso that the people of this county would vote for him.
My bets are...
Police protections
Tax Burden shift
Media control/persecution
New protection for discrimination on 1st amendment grounds for hiring/business
NOAA collapse (more like privatization)
Deportations
Democrat imprisonments
Removal of carbon output caps.
Also missing, he is going to dismiss all the court cases against himself, and use the military to lock up anyone who filed or testified against him.
Oh and Joe Biden is going to sit on his thumbs for the next 2 months instead of taking the wrapper off those new tyrant powers and drone-striking his ass.
My neighbors are all republicans. Nothing will make them go quiet. Leadership could bus them and their children into a giant municipal sausage grinder and they would be babbling happily about winning right up until they died.
Fake news. No right wing community would have a municipal sausage grinder. That's socialism, yo.
The most important and serious one not on the list is that democracy no longer exists in the US. I would be very surprised if people are allowed to vote in 2026.
He will be a dictator day one (actual quote), and dictators don't typically stop dictating once they feel the power.
I honestly think he's going to be worse than Hitler. A lot can change over the next 10 years.
None of these will be announcements. They will probably happen, but quietly.
By 'military sent to Ukraine' you don't mean to help them fight Russia do you?
Military has already been send to lebanon. America isn't planning a ground invasion, its planning a genocide ans carpet bombing does the job.
They don't care about any of that shit as long as petrol is 2c cheaper.
I was going to actually pick one but I honestly don't think any of these are beyond the pale for his followers. And while he is an idiot, he has plenty of not stupid people around him that will ensure these don't happen all at once or at some critical moment - we are going to be frogs boiling. People are going to have to worry about getting food on the table and won't be able to fight back.
How optimistic that you think it'll exist at all. Why pay little wage when no wage do trick?
The majority of white women voted for Trump. It's the POCs that tilted against him
Don't constitutional amendments require a supermajority to push through?
Seriously? The guy is getting presidential advice from "out the window" Putin.
Who will stand against it when opposition members are being locked up.
I hadn't even considered that...
If his plan is to fire tens of thousands of civil servants, district justices, etc and place his own loyalists into office, then there is a very real chance he can legally intimidate the Democrats into passing constitutional amendments.
He literally only needs the Supreme Court and Congress
Pass a blatantly unconstitutional bill and make the SC call it constitutional. That's all that is required.
He has stated that he wants Musk to come in and literally fire everyone.
He's already got the Supreme Court to allow him to assassinate opposition.
Even if he doesn't, its a very dark path being trod.
What's stopping him from doing a Nayib Bukele, calling a state of emergency, mobilising the armed forces and using them to coerce the House and Senate into passing laws?
Nothing?
He has options?
Honestly the way he has treated people like shit, he could reasonably use the excuse that there could be civil unrest.
Well, I guess ultimately that's up to the courts to decide.
You really think Trump is going to do that? I like your optimism.
I think they meant he was going to send troops to fight for the Russian side.
As a European, I'm happy not to know what most of those mean.