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Bandai Namco reportedly tries to bore staff into quitting, skirting Japan’s labor laws
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I think we're misunderstanding the rooms here. Everyone in the comments is saying "ooooh, I'd love that!" But imagine, the company gives you a tough but manageable quota of lines to write out by hand from the dictionary. Every day, 8 hours of writing. No phone, no music, no talking, no distractions, just quietly writing.
For anyone with a decent salaried job, that sounds horrible.
As a software developer writing out lines from the dictionary isn't part of my job description... they'd be violating my employment contract.
Bosses can't just demand you do something... your work needs to be stuff you agreed to do.
You probably have another duties ad required clause somewhere. If not, fine one dev to another, asking for hundreds of shitty useless QA tests. Same stupidity but if they can demonstrate a reasonable employee should finish X in Y time...
As a QA professional, I take exception to that!
If you get into a situation like this please reach out to a labor lawyer - it's extremely likely that you could make a case for constructive dismissal.
so don't make your quota.
what are they going to do, fire you?
Exactly! You accidentally hit the nail on the head here.
The goal of the company is to get rid of employees. But they have permanent hire, so the bosses can't simply fire them without cause (and the bar for cause is very high in Japan). They want employees to quit, or they want employees to clearly fail to perform their duties.
What the employees want is to keep doing decent work at that company, probably until they retire at age 65. Permanent hire is highly treasured, for good reason. The reason permanent hire exists, and is so widespread as required by law, is that Japan values employee well-being more than it values the bosses' well-being. It's hard to get a big loan (for a house or apartment) if you don't have permanent hire. It's hard to get a high-paying job that doesn't have permanent hire. Many companies will not give you good positions if you're over the age of 35, too, which makes changing employers in your 40s-60s very challenging.
not an accident.
Responded before but if you don't hit the quota, they can probably fire you for cause (removing the severance, maybe pension etc.)
It's why all the back to office mandates sorta work (in terms of reducing headcount) you can't just show up and do nothing. If thr company can prove you're doing nothing, you can probably be terminated for cause. Happened to guys I know in a public, govt funded job with the reason as, iirc "time theft" and the union didn't really fight for them because the evidence was pretty damning that they hadn't done fuck all most mornings.
At most companies in Japan, them firing you would not eliminate your severance or pension. Those are typically mostly paid based on years worked, and not on how your employment terminates.
There tend to be extra payouts if you die on the job, at many companies, so it's not true to say that your termination status has zero impact, but typically it's a small adjustment.
For anyone it's horrible. Making someone do monotonous unproductive work is a form of torture. Just look at Sisyphus.
I mean, Camus argued he could at least find satisfaction/meaning in rolling that damned rock. (As part of his "why committing suicide is bad" essay, I think called the Myth of Sisyphus.)
That's not what's done, though.
Yes but comparing our Western lack of shame to Japanese culture is also pretty silly. My example is more balancing the scale.
I would start to suspect my employers of bank robbery.
Heck, now I just want to read this before understanding the joke. Be warned, you're going to get a message in some months thanking you for the reference.