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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

An under-15 boy's soccer team destroyed the US World Women's Soccer Team. That's just a random group of boys who aren't anywhere near their peak, vs literally the best female soccer players in the country. The physical strength, speed, and endurance differences between biological males and females is undeniable. Anyone who says differently is being intellectually and probably emotionally dishonest with themselves. Also, this purported evidence that women were the hunters is a very small sample size out of all of our anthropological evidence. Sure, some women hunted, and some women fought. Some cultures probably demanded that more than others. That doesn't mean that thousands of years worth of history and assumptions are wrong.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Of course, this match against the academy team was very informal and should not be a major cause for alarm. The U.S. surely wasn’t going all out, with the main goal being to get some minutes on the pitch, build chemistry when it comes to moving the ball around, improve defensive shape and get ready for Russia.

Your anecdotal evidence is countered in the very article you posted

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Consider virtually every other sporting example in the history of sports that require speed, strength, and endurance for more examples.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the article you didn't read goes into that, and ultra marathons show parity between the sexes.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There's also this:

https://lemmy.world/comment/12209418

The fact that women perform at parity in ultra marathons doesn't invalidate the very obvious differences in speed, strength, and stamina between biological males and females. Muscle and bone density alone account for a lot of that.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Men and women have about the same peaks but the floor is much higher for men.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Interesting rebuttal to evidence of peak female athletes getting bodied by fairly average high school aged males.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In terms of stamina and the ability to endurance hunt? It’s true. Peak female runners and peak male runners tend to average out in the marathon, the records being about 10 minutes apart. For bursts of speed needed to play Soccer and other sport? Men take the win easily. Also, these are not peak female athletes, they are just a “pro” tram from Australia.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the U.S. Women's National Team

Your arguments would be more convincing if you could read.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And you downvote me for being correct?

It must really hurt that reality doesn’t agree with you.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not the one downvoting you

[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Oh, that was me. I think they're being unnecessarily unfriendly in an otherwise reasonable discussion. Bad vibe.