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[–] theoretiker@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

What about anarcho-capitalism?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ancaps aren't anarchists any more than buffalo have wings. Anarchism is the rejection of hierarchy, and capitalism is inherently hierarchical.

[–] theoretiker@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I don't necessarily disagree, but I need clarification how capitalism is inherently hierarchical. I know that for example starting from a state where everybody has the same "capital" things tend be be distributed unequally because more capital grows at a larger rate than less capital. But this is more something that emerges from capitalism rather than an inherent property.

[–] blubfisch@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago

Well if it naturally gravitates to inequality, l would call it an inherent property.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

capitalism is a system of production in which the means of production are held as private property by a capitalist class. with the abolition of the state will necessarily come abolition of private property, so capitalism cannot exist in anarchy.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Humanity is inherently hierarchical.

[–] theoretiker@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

That's a huge claim. Do you by any chance have a review paper on that? I'd guess that if that's the case there should be plenty of anthropological evidence that early hunter gatherer tribes were hierarchical.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ancaps aren't really anarchists, they just coopted the word.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There is sort of a word missing for people who believe in inequality, that the weak should be ruled by the strong and might makes right, who believe in authoritarianism. I mean besides insults like bootlicker. Because ancaps would just flock to the nearest warlord / land baron.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think the word for people who believe in authoritarianism is "authoritarian".

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Well... touche. But that doesn't sound like an insult and more like praising them for their great authority.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 4 months ago

That's exactly what was meant.

[–] Tiresia 1 points 4 months ago

Amazon's Human Resources Department buys all the land around where you stand, kills you of you violate the NAP by trespassing, and then barters for your unending indentured servitude in exchange for food and water.

Anarcho-capitalism is like taking the worst parts of feudalism and chattel slavery, but with fewer human rights.