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[โ€“] Jax@sh.itjust.works -5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

smoking

anti-consent

Can't help but feel a "my body my choice, your body my choice" vibe from this

[โ€“] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand what you are trying to say.

[โ€“] Jax@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I just think it's odd that you immediately associate smoking with being an asshole - unless they're quitting. Like you make it very clear that personal agency is important to you - but smoking makes you a piece of shit.

[โ€“] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 points 5 months ago

Smoking is bad for the smoker and everyone around them. If you're not even trying to stop, you are kind of a piece of shit.

I don't see what that has to do with asking for consent to touch someone's butt.

[โ€“] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i don't think being a smoker necessarily makes you an a*shole, but surely makes other people live with the smell and the taste of tobacco. and you can't force people to do that.

[โ€“] Jax@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 months ago

I make it a point to not discuss things like this when people aren't thinking clearly.

When you smoke a cigarette the smoke doesn't automatically find the nearest non-smokers lungs in order to harm them. The smoke settles, and there are more than enough places far enough away from people to smoke at.

If you're worried about secondhand smoke harming you in any context outside of smoking indoors - I'm sorry but you just aren't thinking clearly.

[โ€“] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's fine to not be into whatever you want. If I said I didn't find Asians attractive, that wouldn't make me a racist. (I do, for the record, same as I'm into boys of every other nationality, but if I didn't it would still be a personal preference and no one's business but my own.)

[โ€“] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nope. You literally cannot smoke without polluting others.

[โ€“] Azzu@lemm.ee -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You also literally can't play videogames without polluting others, since some of the electricity is still generated by burning coal. You also literally can't do any other thing either probably, since electricity is used in creating almost everything, or at least some other pollution.

I think if someone tries to make sure not to smoke near unknown people or people that don't want it, they're acceptable in my book.

[โ€“] Jax@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 months ago

These people are under the impression that secondhand smoke is sentient and immediately finds the nearest non-smokers lungs to pollute. I wouldn't expect logic to get through to them.

[โ€“] Miaou@jlai.lu 0 points 4 months ago

You mean smokers cannot respect consent? Agreed