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And here we get to the core of the problem. Even when I explicitly ask for ways of cooperation, there seems no good will to do so from you. This experience is something I make often with people that put voting on a pedastal.

Seems like I dont pass your purity test for cooperation /s

Also vor dem Aus ist das Projekt ja eh immer wegen der begrenzten Mietdauer bis 2038.

What I mean is that there’s no way to organize mutual aid in a crisis situation if there’s no previous mutual aid organization before because mutual aid won’t emerge from nothing. Mutual aid takes years or even decades to be organized.

I think many desaster responses actually show the opposite. Mutual aid can emerge spontaneously, structures get build within hours and people show that despite it all, they can help each other out.

Having knowledge, pre existing organizations and a more social day to day life can of course have a hugr positive impact

Laut der Verordnung darf eine Anbauvereinigung maximal 500 Mitglieder haben,

Außerdem darf es berlinweit maximal eine Anbauvereinigung auf 6.000 Einwohner geben, also rechnerisch insgesamt gut 600.

Also dürfen nur 300.000 Berliner*innen über diesen Weg versorgt werden. Es ist zwar gar nicht der Bedarf da, aber es ist gar nicht gewollt das tatsächlich alle Zugang erhalten.

I guess your comment is a good starting point for a discussion, because I disagree with many of your statements. Maybe its also because its tough to get as much nuance as needed in a comment, so I would acknowledge that you might have more nuance in your actual opinions.

Any election with a significant difference between the candidates is worth voting in.

There are lots of elections with very different candidates where the the result does not actually matter, even if the candidates are very different. The differences of outcomes can be heavily reduced by what the position is about and lots of societal factors such as compliance of institutions and general public discourse. Just wanting to add that, because while agree with the huge difference between both relevant candidates, their differences are not the only factors that decide what is going to happen.

Also, it’s vital to pursue methods of improving the world outside of showing up to vote one day every couple of years.

I dont think Harris is actually going to improve much. Being better than Trump is not an improvement, best case its just keeping a very shitty status quo from getting even worse.

trick you into not voting.

Nobody is tricking anyone here, voting is a decision people can and should make for themselves. There is no default correct, because not voting/abstaining is a valid choice in democratic processes. Yeah sure, we can debate if its the choice that is actually in the individuals best interests and so on.

but I have a lot of trouble coming up with a reason why someone who cares about moving the world forward wouldn’t care whether or not we get Trump in charge.

You are acting as if voting is the most effective way to stop Trump from getting in charge. I would say the person trying to shoot Trump was actually employing a way more effective method to reach that goal.

Also just because someone isnt voting, doesnt mean they dont care. I think saying it like that is just plain unfair to all those people deeply caring and doing tons of things but maybe not voting. Their contribution does not hinge on whether they voted or not.

Living your life is one of the most anarchist things you can do in my opinion.

thanks

tldr: the study links crime(categorized into violent and property crime) to a net benefit of the people living in the neighborhood through having more money available. I did not read it fully so please correct me if im wrong.

Yeah I get that.

The only place you lost me is where you specifically are advocating for throwing away a powerful tool for making change.

Voting is not a powerful tool to make change imo. It literally gives the chance to make change away to someone else.

I think you can vote, and also do direct action.

I think so too. You can do that. I wont and I will not change that for the foreseeable future, so instead it might be more useful to find the things we have in common and look for ways where we can cooperate to stop Trump while dismantling the current world and social order that is build on patriarchy and white supremacy.

Does it tho? And even if it does, arent there ways to keep housing prices low with less downsides? I would be sincerely interested in examples where this actually worked.

The crowded plazas owner might restrict you tho. Various well known anarchist accounts such as crimethinc where banned by corporate social media. Also you have to follow many rules to not get banned.

(I still think its valid to be on corporate social media to spread propaganda, but its not as easy as an actual plaza where you can directly communicate with people)

throw some shade at these voting people, implying that they might not be willing to resist Trump.

Well last time Trump won the voting people did not resist at large. Instead they waited around 4 years, voted him out and then again did not do much for 4 years again. What makes you believe they will resist in any meaningful way this time?

I hope your not voting and hoping plan

This just shows you are actually not engaging with me but with a straw person. This is something I never said and you know it.

But everything you’re advocating as a strategy of stopping Trump from coming to power makes absolutely no sense to me.

Which strategies you are referring to? I did not mention any specific ones in our discussions. It again feels like you are actually engaging with your perception of me and not actually my positions.