Thanks for the resource! This seems to be more of a fediverse server hosting coop. I was talking about a coop for developing the software that these guys host (and a coop that might also have its own instance hosted as well).
Basically, getting a developer or two, paying them a wage to develop this stuff.
I see. So just to clarify, you r saying that the incentive to vote for coop legislation, moderator elections and so on isn't worth paying money for on its own, correct?
I've seen coop models working kiiiiinda okay for server maintenance. I was talking more in terms of raw development + maintenance. Lemmy needs SO MANY features, but simply lacks funds to hire devs to get stuff done. Sure, there r devs willing to donate their time, but still... Isn't there a way other than charity for this?
Interesting. Although the "pay for feature" falls in the charity trap again, no? People unfortunately aren't willing to donate much (see the peanuts that Lemmy devs get for instance).
I don't think "donate to vote" is particularly appealing to the average user.
Hmm... It adds a value proposition though, doesn't it? A simple "donate so that we can keep running n developing" doesn't seem to be working that well for Lemmy it seems.
Saying, "if you donate, u literally get to participate in legislation for the future development of the coop" + stuff like special badges kinda provide SOME more value than the free user, no?
I dunno, I can't really think of a better way for fundraising directly from consumers other than this. A third option is offering special, branded internal social media platforms (like Yammer) for businesses, but that's it.
I so so wish if we could have a user funded nice, completely developed fediverse social media platform that also is a coop haha.
I first read “fediverse coup” and got excited.
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Yeah that's true unfortunately. But the goal is NOT to be so small always. What if we had a good, properly developed and funded social media platform that was a cooperative at the same time? That's the idea.
Right now, while Lemmy (and the fediverse in general) is nice, it clearly lacks developmental resources purely due to a lack of funds. Most devs here are contributing on a voluntary basis.
Why shouldn't devs get to earn a living by working on a project that is meant to do actual good for society? Why shouldn't social media consumers get to have a platform that doesn't treat them as data mines?
That's kinda the idea. Not just to maintain Lemmy's userbase, but to actually get more users who are presently on corporate social media platforms.
The idea is to exit from the charity model. So the workers would be full fledged salaried employees. The end goal being to replace traditional corporate social media platforms by this cooperative one.
She can easily bait him into another debate by talking about how small the crowds cheering for him were. I'm sure Grandpa will come running to tell us about his wholesome stories of transgender aliens performing surgeries on American cats and dogs.
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Awh that's nice of u. Thanks for donating n keeping these platforms alive :).
Same lol. Although I'm trying not to be too pessimistic. Perhaps a little bit of nagging (like Wikipedia does), visual funding meters, the idea of a cooperative social media platform instead of a corporate owned one and so on might raise enough money to give acceptable salaries to devs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯