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'You have to shed the tears': Justice shares that she cries after some Supreme Court cases (www.usatoday.com)
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[–] Argongas@kbin.social 126 points 5 months ago (5 children)

One of the reasons this election is so critical is the Supreme Court. If Trump wins, Alito and Thomas likely step down and two new, younger, likely even more conservatives get appointed, leaving Trump with 5 appointees who will fuck us for decades.

We have to keep that from happening. We need Biden to hold the fort if nothing else. Hopefully, it will become quite evident that this court is corrupt AF, and there will be real momentum for reforms and/or impeachment of Alito and/or Thomas. We'll need Dem senators to actually start pushing for this and probably start pushing for increasing the Senate with DC, Puerto Rico, and Samoa statehood.

But people gotta suck it up and support Biden, while at the same time getting involved at the state level.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think you need a 2/3 majority in the senate to impeach a scotus judge. There is no reality where that happens. Absolutely zero chance. Thomas could eat a baby and this GOP would cover for him.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Impeachment is the accusation and happens in the House. They draft "Articles of Impeachment" and pass them like any other bill, with a majority vote.

The Senate then holds a trial while the House provides a prosecutor of those charges. The Senate acts as a jury and, to convict, requires a "2/3rd majority of those present"

Trump, for example was impeached twice, successfully. The Senate failed to convict both times.

[–] Argongas@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago

Correct, that is the full process. Even if the Senate is unlikely to convict, that doesn't mean the house shouldn't Impeach. It elevates the issue, brings attention to it, can dig up more information, and at least shows that some measure of accountability is being sought.

[–] Argongas@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think with more state level work, Dems could start flipping more Senate seats. AZ and Georgia are recent examples. But it needs to be a 50 state strategy, and too often people just see a red state and throw up their hands as if there's no way that can change.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I like your optimism, but there's no way in hell we're flipping 16 senators if Jan 6th didn't even stop the GOP from gaining seats in congress.

On Jan 6th, I thought that we were finally going to get the GOP to collapse and rebuild from scratch. We literally had congressmen narrowly escape a linching from a violent mob literally smearing shit on the walls of one of our highest institutions.

And the GOP just steamed along like nothing happened. And are still getting elected to office. And expelled the few Republicans that spoke up. And their base love them for it.

So no, there's no path to removing these overtly corrupt SCOTUS judges. Zero. The best we can hope for is Dems getting the majority in congress and achieving a meaningless impeachment that's nothing but show.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

at the same time getting involved at the state level.

Getting good candidates started at local and state levels is the key to changing the system. Problem is that most working people have neither the time nor financial resources to pursue this while the wealthy have the money and can buy those resources. This is how the GOP pushed the teabaggers into high offices.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 9 points 5 months ago

Keep this advocacy up. It gives us hope and helps us stay the course.

[–] Horsey@kbin.social 8 points 5 months ago

I genuinely don’t think PR would be a safe D seat by any stretch though

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"It will become quite evident"

It seems you are not paying attention...

[–] Argongas@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago

Maybe a better way to say it is obvious enough for people not paying close attention to have no doubt about the corruption, and as a result Court reform becomes a mainstream issue that moderate Dems get behind.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 115 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As opposed to the conservative justices, who probably jerk off thinking about all the people they’ve hurt with every decision.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago

Those shitheads care about nothing more than power. Thomas too busy taking bribes to worry about something so silly like empathy.

[–] normanwall@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -5 points 5 months ago

Imagine being so fuckin dumb you think going from being a socialist to a conservative is what makes liberals cry.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imagine working with the shittiest people in the world, whose decisions affect the lives of millions and can make life even harder for them, and they gleefully do so time and time again, while you’re powerless to stop them.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

More power than the rest of us have at least. A vote on the supreme court is one of the most valuable things in the US.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

McConnell spent his entire political career focusing on the Supreme Court above all else. The current conservative majority is his masterpiece, one that will affect American life for decades to come. He did that while his opponent were bickering about the smaller stuff.

It will take decades to change back, but get out there and vote whenever you can.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He accomplished more in his career than the vast majority of politicians, regardless of those who reached higher office.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Definitely. I despise close to all of his work, but there's no denying the efficiency.

And it makes it very clear how important it is to vote every time.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 months ago

Let's all give her an award for being human. There are five other pieces of shit on that bench that are absolutely vial monsters.

Sorry for dehumanizing people. I know that's a terrible slip into worse thoughts and actions. But fuck people like Clarence Thomas and Alito and the rest. They are tyrannical shitbags.

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Don't cry. Retire so that Biden can nominate your replacement.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 13 points 5 months ago

True. I don't know why you got downvoted, but I wept the day RBG died in office under Trump. Single darkest day for American jurisdiction and completely avoidable if old fucks didn't cling to power like they do.

[–] Argongas@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago

I'm not sure a new justice could be appointed this close to the election given Joe Manchin's previous statements. It also wouldn't change the balance of power.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago

If Trump gets 2024 the SC is the least of our problems.