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[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 77 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Quality, but what about ME, and arguably 3.11. Does NT cover both 3.5.1 and 4? (my memory is hazy about earlier)

[–] IIII@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] db2@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago
[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I see 8.1 as 9. Will never not.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Fuck you. Bringing up ME and making me relive the memories. Even as a kid, I couldn't stand it wanted 98 back.

ME and Vista are by far the worst to date.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

ME and Vista are by far the worst to date.

11 is trying its darnedest.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Really? I do not see much difference compared with 10, other than shifted start button.

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[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I personally never had any issues with Vista. Even deferred win7 for 4-5 years until I got curious. Though I did have a system made for it, so that was part of it.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Vista was a nightmare unless you had OEM equipment that wasn't just vista compatible, but MADE FOR VISTA. Your experience was an aberration, most people got 'vista compatible' PCs that were running vista but made with XP sp1 in mind. So you'd see these systems that had no hardware graphics acceleration beyond onboard anemic garbage trying to run menus with DOF blur and soft overlays just gagging, and god forbid you had to troubleshoot/support some software on some shit like this, it was a nightmare.

The rest of the people upgraded from XP to Vista themselves, and the smart ones went "OH FUCK NO" and went back in droves.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] The_Hideous_Orgalorg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

8 only gets hate because people lost their minds with the start menu change.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 7 points 5 months ago

It had multiple personalities disorder. Two e-mails, two browsers, two settings. It was confusing as hell.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I actually liked it then, you could just roughly click in the area and would hit the right shortcut.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

~~I don't know if they reclassified it at some point, but back on those days 3.5 was titled "Windows for Workgroups" and 4.0 was the first to be known simply as "NT".~~

Forget what I said, I recalled an old memory from childhood of a 3.5 upgrade box for people running Windows for Workgroups.

NT 4.0 is definitely what popularized that version prior to Windows 2000 and XP. Most people who just say "Windows NT" are thinking about 4.0.

[–] BillibusMaximus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

3.11 was WfW, and ran on top of DOS just like 3.1 did.

NT 3.51 used the NT kernel, and (mostly) looked like 3.1/3.11 on the surface. NT 4 used the NT kernel, and (mostly) looked like Win95.

Win 95/98/Me also ran on DOS, though it was more tightly integrated than it was in the 3.1 days.

Win 2k and everything after was based on NT.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 4 points 5 months ago

I remember the early win 3.11 to win 95 days when it was still easier to exit to dos to install a lot of software because no one was writing windows interfaces for anything.

Now I'm wondering if I still have my Doom .WADs saved somewhere...

[–] brianorca@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Replace NT in this list with ME and you have all the consumer versions. NT versions 3.5 and 4 were the business versions in parallel with 95, 98, and ME.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Win2k wasn't consumer. It was the business offering at the same time as ME, which may be surprising to some. Xp was their successor, merging the business and personal lines.

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[–] Hupf@feddit.de 74 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Hi, my name is Gabe Newell and I'll teach you how to count to ten:

1, 2

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 months ago

RE: Re: FWD: RE:

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 months ago (5 children)

What about windows millennium edition?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 15 points 5 months ago

We don't talk about Windows ME.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

It was the true mistake edition.

[–] jnk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Same energy

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 5 points 5 months ago

Its always ME ME ME with you lot!

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[–] Saganaki@lemmy.one 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The reason there isn’t a Windows 9 is because there was a common test for windows versions that went something like this:

std::string winVer = getWinVerStr();
if (winVer.find(“Windows 9”) != -1)
{
    // This is windows 95 or 98
}

A good chunk of older programs would likely have issues.

[–] dan@upvote.au 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

This is a myth. The Win32 API doesn't even have a method that returns the string "Windows 95"! Windows version numbers are numbers, not strings. Windows 95 was actually 4.0. Windows 98 was 4.1, ME was 4.5, and XP was 5.0.

Actually it's not entirely a myth - there was some Java library that did this - but it wasn't widespread at all, and certainly not the documented approach to check the version.

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[–] SirW00talot@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Was dude even at the company after Vista?

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nope. Bill left MS in 2008 and Windows 7 came out in 2009.

Also the joke left out Windows 10x, AKA 11.

And for some reason, it includes NT and Win2k, but leaves out all the other Server versions (2003 through 23H2).

[–] doc_dish@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

NT (3.x & 4.0) and 2000 were also available as Workstation editions. They were concurrent with Windows 3.x, 95, 98 and ME (which did get missed on the above)

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

Yeah the whole meme is funny but stupid and wrong. It’s like blaming Steve Jobs for the Vision Pro.

[–] kshade@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder if they will call the next versions 12 and especially 13. Alternative names:

  • Windows AI (because all those new features are so transformative)
  • Windows Azure Blue, Red and Yellow (Home and Pro, neither allowing local accounts, also Enterprise where non-hybrid AD still kinda works)
  • Windows Edge 20XX (everything has to use cloud computing terms!)
  • Windows. Just Windows. (four years later: Windows 2 announced!)
[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How about Windows NoPrivacyOnlyAdsForYou Edition? Kinda rolls nicely off the tongue.

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[–] amio@kbin.social 14 points 5 months ago

I distinctly remember this joke when 2000 or ME was the most recent one.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People say valve can't count to 3 but Microsoft is guessing what number comes after 0

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[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

NT 3.1 came out before 95, and isn't a single version (Windows 11 is still Windows NT). If you include NT as a version, you can't include 2000, XP, or anything after.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

In Windows NT math, 6.3 = 8.1

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[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm over here on Windows 13.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 5 months ago

I'm on Windows 2000 which is 1987 versions ahead of Windows 13.

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This thing goes to ELEVEN now.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's how old this meme is.

[–] mrgreyeyes@feddit.nl 3 points 5 months ago

The ancient texts are resurfaced.

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[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

I thought 1 came after 360.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Really chafing at mixing NT codebase with 9x codebase (especially when NT had versions).

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Theres the problem. Everytime hes tried to go sequential, he fucks it up

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