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[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 98 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Trumpeters often don't use their nose to play.

[–] Track_Shovel 53 points 5 months ago

Have you heard my father blow his nose? I beg to differ

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

That was my first thought but can dolphins breathe out of their mouths?

*Searching say no. Can I say duckduckgoing? Ducking? Ducking says no. Separate breathing and feeding tubes. We should do that.

**More ducking says "Until recently it was thought that dolphins could not breathe through their mouths in the same way as people can, only through their blowholes. However, in 2016 scientists discovered a New Zealand dolphin with a damaged blowhole who had learnt to breathe through his or her mouth."

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’d just like to add that the colloquial interpretation of “mouth-breathing dolphin” is kinda funny. Like Kevin the Dolphin.

[–] Darkenfolk@dormi.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Thank you for this, great stuff.

[–] Turun@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago

Huh, interesting. This article has a scratch of the cross section of a dolphins head: https://hakaimagazine.com/news/scientists-discover-mouth-breathing-dolphin/

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

*What do you reckon the past participle would be? Google/Googled is easy. Duckduckgoed sounds wrong. Duckduckwent is probably correct. Ducked might be easily misinterpreted/misunderstood.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

DDGed gets my vote.

[–] Sigh_Bafanada@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Computer says no.

AHEM

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

One time my brother played the recorder using his nose, we were all thoroughly impressed and never again touched that thing.

[–] InfiniteWisdom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

You are correct that a dolphin's blowhole is not its nose in the traditional sense, but it does serve a similar function in that it is used for breathing. However, the reason a dolphin would play a trumpet with its blowhole rather than its mouth has more to do with the anatomy of its airway than with the function of the blowhole itself.

Dolphins are mammals and breathe air into their lungs just like humans do. However, unlike humans, dolphins do not have a direct connection between their mouths and their lungs. Instead, their airway consists of a long, narrow passageway that leads from the blowhole on the top of their heads down to their lungs. This passageway is called the pharynx, and it is not connected to the mouth or the digestive tract.

This unique anatomy means that dolphins are not able to inhale or exhale through their mouths, and they cannot control the airflow through their mouths in the same way that humans can. Instead, they use their blowhole for breathing, and they have excellent control over the muscles surrounding the pharynx, which allows them to produce a variety of sounds for communication.

So, if a dolphin were to attempt to play a trumpet (or any other wind instrument), it would have to use its blowhole rather than its mouth because that is the only way it is physically capable of controlling the airflow to produce sound. The dolphin would essentially be using the trumpet as an extension of its own respiratory system, blowing air through the instrument with its blowhole and using its pharyngeal muscles to modulate the airflow and create musical notes.

In conclusion, while a dolphin's blowhole may not be a "nose" in the traditional sense, it is the functional equivalent when it comes to breathing and sound production. And due to the unique anatomy of a dolphin's airway, it would indeed use its blowhole, rather than its mouth, to play a trumpet.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)
[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

is nsfw a thing for comments?

[–] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Spoiler tag maybe

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[–] midori@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"a butt tuba" spelled backwards is "a butt tuba"

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

abut ttub a

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Unlike most of these sorts of things, this one has a definite answer: 2. They cannot blow air out of their mouths. However, since they have no hands to work the valves, it wouldn't sound too good, assuming they could get it to stay in place to begin with.

[–] bcgm3@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

assuming they could get it to stay in place to begin with.

Perhaps the mouthpiece would serve as a "flared base," as it were.

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

We might have bigger problems if you've been inserting the flared base first.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Valves aren't needed to "sound too good", they're needed to get more notes. Without valves, you've still got the harmonic series. Any piece played on bugle could also be played on trumpet. And the majority of classical compositions up until the late 19th century. (All classical compositions until the early 19th century.)

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good to know. Could a dolphin blow different notes with its blowhole?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 5 months ago

Probably not. I'm not a brass player or a marine biologist but as I understand it the way a brass player's embouchure works would not be replicable by a dolphin's blowhole (it's not just "send air through the tube", it's more like blowing a raspberry). They wouldn't be able to play any note, let alone different notes.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

From what I know about dolphins, they're more likely to fuck it than play it.

[–] Vlixz@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

As far as I know now just dolphin's~

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

Knowing about dolphins - neither, they would just fuck it.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean, you toot with your mouth, not your nose, so 1.

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[–] PhoreTwunny@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

They have to play in pairs

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Your lips do important work in making a trumpet play. Dolphins don't have the fine control over their lips that would be necessary. Maybe the blowhole does?

[–] Track_Shovel 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Idk about dolphins, but I really don't have great control over my blowhole...

[–] Hootz@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bro, you never skip Kegel day.

[–] Track_Shovel 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

distant sound of something similar to someone blowing over the top of a coke bottle

[–] Hootz@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

That's how I found my wife.

[–] kepa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

Its obviously number one. How can they hold the trumpet while blowing if not in the beak, mouth or whatever its called.

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago
[–] psoul@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Bro they only play the tuba, it is known

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

That's either a tiny dolphin or a massive trumpet

[–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why not both at the same time?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Lung capacity

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Neither! Just air moving through the trumpet doesn't make noise. You go brrrrrrrrr into the mouthpiece with your lips to produce sound.

It's more like pfffff rather than brrrrrr but yeah.

[–] raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Couldn't they play two at once?

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 8 points 5 months ago

No, they are unable to breathe through their mouths at all. Their respiratory system is bonkers compared to other mammals. Their blowhole is one nostril,which is used for breathing , while the other nostril is located in their skull and is used for echolocation and vocalizations.

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 months ago

Of course 💨

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Depends on how they're wearing their pants.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

A dolphin would likely play something more like a trombone with an articulating system of pipes that could be played through vigorous contortions of the body. Think playing a trombone but with a hula hooping/swimming motion. Perhaps a small lever could extend out to the dolphin flipper that would allow nuanced fine pitch control with lateral contortions of the dolphin’s flipper.

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