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[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 245 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Meanwhile every other person:

gets shot for not following an officer’s orders in .5 seconds

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 114 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Or shot for following orders from one officer because another officer didn't know what the first officer told you to do

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Or they’re the same officer with an engraving on their personal rifle they use for work

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Yes, but- A. Trump is white, B. Trump is rich, C. Cops are MAGA assholes.

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[–] Poppa_Mo@lemmy.world 198 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nice. I got contempt of court once and spent the weekend in jail. No ifs ands or buts about it. Judge wouldn't even let me hand my house keys to my partner. Lol

What a fucking joke.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 75 points 6 months ago (8 children)

The judge doesn’t want to give Trump’s team any ammunition for an appeal. I realize it’s absurd, but if he’s thrown in jail without significant warning then they’ll argue it biased the already liberal jury (cause NYC) against him too much.

(I am not a lawyer, that’s just my understanding.)

[–] baru@lemmy.world 68 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The judge doesn’t want to give Trump’s team any ammunition for an appeal.

It's still treating Trump different than most. If it's such a problem to put Trump in jail, why isn't it for any random person?

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's still treating Trump different than most.

Of course it is.

If it's such a problem to put Trump in jail, why isn't it for any random person?

Because he is a former president of the United States who is currently running for re-election. This situation is unique in American history. As much as we may dislike these facts, they are true. The judge is in uncharted waters here, and needs to be careful to avoid anything that can be construed as evidence of bias against the defendant. This trial will be under scrutiny for as long as we have a country.

It’s not fair that most defendants do not have the essentially limitless resources of the entire conservative political machine at their disposal to pay for their legal woes, but it is the reality of the situation.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The judge is in uncharted waters here, and needs to be careful to avoid anything that can be construed as evidence of bias against the defendant.

And in so doing, hold a bias for the asshole.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (13 children)

The judge is biased on the side of Justice. Getting the case thrown out out of principle wouldn't help anyone but Trump.

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[–] Zron@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

I would make a terrible judge, because I don’t see how this is uncharted territory. Sure, it’s unprecedented, but that doesn’t mean we don’t know what to do.

Our entire government is made up of citizens, that was the whole point in fighting a war to get rid of an unjust monarchy, ruling from afar.

Trump is a citizen, if he broke the law he needs to go to jail. If he breaks the law during the trial, he should receive the same punishment as any other citizen would. Doing anything else just means we have a 2 tier justice system.

The fact that he has fucked up 10 times and is still a free man is ridiculous. All the judge has done is show trump that he can do whatever he wants and face no repercussions. If you did something 10 times, and then someone gets mad the 11th, you wouldn’t say “sorry my bad” you’d say “why are you mad, I do this all the time”

This country is a joke

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

I think 11 contempt charges represents 10 more “significant warnings” than anyone else would get.

I legitimate appeals court would accept trumps argument and illegitimate courts aren’t going to care and just side with Trump anyhow.

This isn’t for appeals… it’s for mass consumption; and it’s a massive miscarriage of justice.

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[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 147 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Wow, he must have really learned his lesson from the last 9 telling offs.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At $1,000 a pop, paid for by his cultists, he doesn't care.

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Sort of my point.

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[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 130 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 118 points 6 months ago (4 children)

"Just 15 or 20 more times, mister! I'm not kidding this time!"

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago (4 children)

You guys rip on me 13 or 14 more times and I'm out of here. ~basketball

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 91 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Threatening him does nothing but make the judge look like a chickenshit same as the rest

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (4 children)

"The last thing I want to do is put you in jail."

~ Judge Juan Merchan

We love our fair and impartial judiciary, don't we folks? Lets give Judge Merchan a big hand. He's helping to Make America Great Again.

[–] drislands@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I wonder if he means that in the sense of "putting you in jail is only going to empower your frankly rabid base of supporters. I need to avoid even the slightest hint of a mistrial so we can put you in prison for good."

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[–] KidnappedByKitties@lemm.ee 88 points 6 months ago (4 children)

When does this raise questions of precedent? Is everyone entitled to 10 violations of a gag order in NYC now?

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 63 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Yes, if they can pay the $10,000 fine.

The judge said everyone gets warnings and fines before jail time. If he could, he'd issue a large fine, but he can't because state law caps the fine at $1,000 per violation. The judge acknowledged that a $10,000 fine for a multi-millionaire isn't even a punishment, but immediately jailing someone because they can easily afford the fine seemed wrong. Trump violated the gag order 10 times before being officially told to stop, so the judge is lumping them all into a "first" violation. He said the "second" violation absolutely will be punished with jail time. We'll see.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Bullshit fixed-value fines are only a deterrent for poors.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 23 points 6 months ago

As is intended

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[–] blazera@lemmy.world 68 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wheres all those people that were telling me he'd be jailed with the next contempt charge?

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The protection did not even ask for jail time! WTF!

A weekend in the clink without a cell phone would do the man some good.

Edit: I meant to say prosecution, but autocorrect.

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[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 66 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Stop. Threatening.

Start. Sentencing.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 66 points 6 months ago

Oh neat, a judge admitting that the justice system isn't blind at all and that there is a privileged class with very different rules.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 6 months ago

I could get away with ten contempt of court charges and not go to jail. /s

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)

10th time

only now threatens jail time

Correct me but any pregraduate law student who hasn't been skipping on their classes could get rich by filing for the obvious bias the judges have to allow 10 contempts of court, wouldn't they?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago (8 children)

This is the second ruling of contempt

First ruling was collectively over 9 comments he made.

This is the second, and said next would be jail time.

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[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That judges threats are emptier than an Donald Trumps head.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 months ago

Don't be fooled by the "10th time". There were 9 separate violations that were all brought as a single complaint last week. So technically one "time" (as in, one ruling), just regarding 9 separate tweets so technically nine separate incidents. Number ten here is basically Donnie's second strike in terms of actual warnings. If he gets a third without repercussions, then I think it'll be fair to say the judge may be bluffing.

Remember, judges have to play things a little softly if they don't want to set up precedent for appeal. He can't give Trump any reason to claim he's being treated unfairly. Two warnings is perfectly reasonable.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago
[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fucking yawn. Wake me when Agent Orange is in prison.

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago
[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 22 points 6 months ago

"threatens" lmao ok let me know when you're actually gonna do something

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If the jail time is on par with the fines he gets, he should spend about five minutes in jail. That should teach him not to do it again.

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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Everyone complaining about the judges leniency... consider that getting locked up would be absolute gold for trumps campaign. Infinite money as well as great exposure.

Yeas it works be great to see him behind bars, but I'd prefer to play the long game.

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The judge seems to have a kink for holding Trump in contempt based on how ineffective the admonitions have been.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Doesn't this create a precedence for being a dick to judges because they let it slide for Drowsy Don and everyone is supposed to be treated equally in front of court? I wonder what would happen if I were to be found in contempt of court for the 10th time in my trial.

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[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Judge you a BITCH

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago

They can only fine $1000 per violation, so that's basically useless for stopping trump. Hopefully they'll escalate to jail time.

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