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Science Advances report also finds people of color and low-income residents in US disproportionately affected

Archived version: https://archive.ph/QrYK1

Study report: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adm8680

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 48 points 6 months ago (9 children)

I really don't get this love of gas stoves. You'd think electric stoves killed their parents.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 71 points 6 months ago (25 children)

It's because so many electric stoves fucking suck. A cheap gas stove is infinitely better to cook on than a cheap coil electric stove.

While people will talk about electric stoves and reference newer glass top ranges, and induction cooktop that heat the pan directly, that's not what 90% of people have. They have the shitty coil burners from the cheap piece of shit model the apartment complex installed.

The price difference to get to a good electric means many apartment complexes and landlords won't buy them, or it's just cost prohibitive for current homeowners with the current economy when the current stove unexpectedly breaks.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've also found gas is better for frying or using a wok

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The consistent heat, even with all the inefficiency, is so much better for anything that requires a precise, consistent temp. Trying to keep fry oil at a specific temp when the electric top is duty cycling is a huge pain the ass.

But, as far as I'm concerned, different tools for different purposes. I hate this black and white mentality that electric is undeniably "better." I'm also getting over the "we found something bad about Z so we should all stop using Z everywhere." Life's about tradeoffs and we will never have something perfect for every use case, so being able to make the choice on what is right for you is important.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Ok, but gas is a lot of bad things. It poisons the air in your house, releases an extremely potent greenhouse gas on accident constantly, and when everything goes right it still inherently contributes to climate change because it’s a fossil fuel.

Like I don’t really care how good it is, it’s a problem.

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[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Which gas stoves and what electric stoves did you test this on?

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

tell us the model on which you had a wok working. Cuz I tried all of them out there, including $2k ones and it still sucks. Electric/induction stove -- no wok.

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[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

The ones in my rentals. So probably the cheapest in each category

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 months ago

It’s Time To Break Up With Our Gas Stoves [Climate Town] | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX2aZUav-54

[–] onion@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

A cheap gas stove is infinitely better to cook on than a cheap coil electric stove.

Yes but it's not 1920. You can get an single range induction stove from Ikea for 50€.

Here's a gas stove for 300€: https://geizhals.de/amica-shgg-11559-w-gasherd-a1124476.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

Here's an induction stove for 300€: https://geizhals.de/gorenje-gec5a21wg-elektroherd-mit-glaskeramik-kochfeld-740524-a2838490.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Honestly disagree. When I think of a stove I think of my landlord special electric and it’s fine. I really don’t get why people hate them. And yes I’ve used gas. And glass. Never induction though.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 21 points 6 months ago (7 children)

There's a whole lot of people for whom "electric stove" means "giant metal coil that heats up in an uncontrollable way and contacts my cookware unevenly."

When my gas stove fails, I will almost certainly replace it with an electric induction stove. I have never used one, but my understanding is that they are just as easy to cook with as a gas stove.

However, old style electric stoves are still about half the price of induction stoves, and gas stoves are even cheaper. I can't fault someone for having to replace their range with something they can just barely afford instead of with something they can't afford at all.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 16 points 6 months ago

Having used all three types a fair bit, holy shit yes a good induction hob is leagues above the old electric coil ones

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

I wouldn’t say I love my gas stove (and oven), but I do find it way easier to cook on than electric. I’ve only recently become aware of the health dangers. Not really money in my budget currently to switch.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

Because a wok attached to a jet engine makes the best fried rice.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

To be fair some folks have a false perception that the gas stove is better for some tasks and buying a whole new appliance sucks especially when it's potentially the government forcing you to make the switch.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Good for cooking as they can generate a lot of heat quickly

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[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

THEY ARE COMING AFTER YOUR LEAD PIPES AND KITCHEN WARE. THE EVIL LIBERALS ARE TAKING EVERYTHING THAT MAKES US WHO WE ARE!!!!!!!!

[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

EVERYTHING THAT MAKES US WHO WE ARE

Lead poisoning. That checks out.

[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

My family has been ~~smoking cigarettes~~ using gas stoves for generations

If ~~smoking age is raised~~ gas stoves aren't sold anymore, Biden will come take it from my home!

My father's father lived a happy life with cancer from ~~smoking~~ cooking daily on an unventilated gas stove, and died happily at 53. I never met him.

Look around. Point to me the people walking around who are dead from ~~smoking~~ cooking daily over an unventilated gas stove.

[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Before this info about how unhealthy gas stoves are came out, I switched to an induction range. I really liked it then and still do now. Highly recommended.

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[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nitrogen dioxide is a made up liberal democratic fake new word. Sounds like something a socialist marxist communists college professor would brain wash into students.

I've been using a stove forever. I've never seen this so called nitrogen dioxide. Smell that steam (cough cough). Don't look at the marks on the ceiling. It's a fine dust that sticks to everything. Can you open the window wide? I've been getting the strangest headaches when cooking lately.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah the liberals want you to eat the fake meat from Bill Gates

[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

My great great grandfather tested an electric stove in 1927. It was horrible. He wrote using a fountain pen in his journal using cursive that I should never buy one.

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

My house came with a gas stove. I can replace it but obviously it will cost a lot. I also know it's usually good to not throw a working appliance out even if it's not as efficient. I'm just wondering with everything on the table, should I throw out my gas stove? It's really hard for me to weigh the pros and cons because it's not clear how bad the cons are. Its obviously bad to use a gas stove but just how bad is it?

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[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ha ha. All these people think:

  • Biden Clause is going to visit every one of their homes one day, rip out their gas stove, leaving a huge hole in the wall
  • Force everyone to buy from the ~~Trump Election Fund PAC~~ Democrat store for a markup
  • Buy their electricity from the ~~Haliburton~~ Democrat electric company
  • Or face punishment by the ~~watweboarding Blackwater company pardoned by Trump~~ Democrats
  • And all that money will funnel to ~~Trump's son in law's businesses in Saudi Arabia~~ Democrat pockets
[–] beigegull@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

I live in a rural area. Electricity goes out for like a week pretty consistently every year.

I've got a propane generator, but running a stove off of it rather than just using the propane to run the stove seems silly. If power goes out for too long, I'll turn the generator off, be without electricity, but still be able to cook.

The health risks of propane seem pretty marginal to me. If I were going to try to change my energy sources for health reasons my wood heat setup would be much higher priority.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why not just get a propane grill and cook outside if the power goes out?

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[–] Zekas@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Cool but this is more for when there's an alternative. You have to take that risk, whatever, but if you don't, maybe it's time to reconsider.

[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

You can use a camp stove for 1 week per year. That’s 2% of the annual pollution in your lungs from cooking on it year round.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago

Why does the power go out?

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