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[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 74 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Apart from anything else, why should teachers have to buy the tools to do their job?

[–] red_rising@lemmy.world 78 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Because for decades teaching has been marketed as ‘a calling’ not a job. People say things like, ‘teachers do what they have to’ or ‘no one goes into teaching for the money’ or ‘you might be the only person in some of these kids lives that care for them.’ These kind of phrases allow higher ups to continually slash teaching budgets while convincing teachers that they must fill the shortfall because of they don’t, who will? It’s bullshit.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago (3 children)

People are in for a rude awakening after republicans get rid of public schools. You think buying your own supplies is expensive — wait until you get the bill for going to private school.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

"Oh, you can't afford to send your child to school? Well the coal mines are always hiring if you need to get them out of the house."

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Soon, an editorial headline:

Americans' bills are piling up; could chattel children be the answer?

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 months ago

See also: Republicans have repealed child labor laws, but is that really a bad thing?

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[–] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

It's because Republicans really like the unwashed masses they're easier to manipulate.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 6 months ago

Don't worry, we'll all be too busy reacting to actually take the time to reflect and learn something.

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Much like nurses in the U.K., and their current pay battles. There are even former nurses saying “they should do it for the love of the job”.

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They shouldn't. Education is critically and routinely underfunded because dumb people vote conservative.

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[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

rich neighborhoods often pay $200+ per student per year for supplies.

poor neighborhoods just get by without supplies

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[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

That is because the jets and yachts are company provided and the company writes it off as an operational expense. You know, as schools should be doing with school supplies teachers need to do their job.

Companies also don't require their employees to bring their own desk and chair... I know.. do t give them any ideas.. and probably some scumbag employers did this anyway.

This is separate from the fact if companies should be allowed to expense luxury items... Like yachts and jets..

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In Canada, a company-provided vehicle is a taxable benefit when used for personal purposes. This can include if you park the vehicle at home and drive to/from work if you have a fixed office location.

Of course, the rich work around this by making that yacht trip etc a "business expense" and entertaining similarly rich guests.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago (6 children)

So many people think "tax deductible" literally means you subtract it from your taxes.

[–] Niiru@feddit.de 4 points 6 months ago

It's still a hefty discount

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Companies also don’t require their employees to bring their own desk and chair

Unless you work from home, then you are expected to have the space, supplies, desk, chair, electricity, internet connection...

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Plenty of employers provide at least some of that and reimburse for the rest. That should be the norm.. and it is still way cheaper than a desk space in an office.

And for employees, the cost saving on the commute makes up for more than the costs of electricity and stuff.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Not really. The company should pay for everything you need to do your job.

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They're not "allowed to" expense those things. At least, not in the way you mean. Whether or not regulators have an appetite to investigate is another matter.

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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This is just plain incorrect.

The law doesn't allow CEOs to write off yachts.

Whether or not regulators investigate them is another matter.

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Can't they just buy in the name of a company, which would be a 'business expense', which is kind of a write off?

[–] HydraulicMonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (7 children)

They would have to justify how it is a part of the companies operations. In theory at least.

So a private jet to fly your execs to business meets? Ok.

A yacht? Maybe for entertaining customers? I don't know about the US, but here in Australia entertainment expenses are written off at a lower rate than other business expenses.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

A yacht can have meeting rooms, you can receive clients in these meeting rooms for business purposes, making it therefore a business expense.

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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't work like that. Expenses need to be "necessarily incurred in the course of producing income". Just be cause a company pays for something doesn't make it tax deductible.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I can't have a yacht business meeting without a yacht now can I?

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

That's why they don't own the yachts, but they own the charter companies that run the yachts.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The system working as intended

[–] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

Yup, not a bug, a feature.

[–] Davin@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

The productive class vs the parasite class.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Teachers shouldn't be paying for teaching supplies in the first place.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Teachers shouldn’t have to buy their own supplies out of pocket to begin with.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I had a boss once who avoided paying taxes on his 49' sailing yacht by "donating" it to his church. It was then technically owned by the church (so no taxes, either transfer or property) but he still used it exclusively.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

You can probably report that to the IRS right now.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

Religious country

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Well, have a party or three with businesses clients on the yacht and you can write that off. However, I think the vast majority of people have their yachts registered under shell corporations, and that opens up a lot of opportunities for writeoffs.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If I were a teacher, I would not buy school supplies with my own money.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The unfortunate part is that then kids in your class would be missing out on school supplies. It's not right for teachers to use their own money for school supplies though.

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[–] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (5 children)

We need to normalize burning them.

[–] Exusia@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The uh....the rich or the yachts?

[–] PostingPenguin@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago

Both. Both are perfectly fine.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That wouldn't be good for the environment.

Compost them instead.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

Or eat them, you know, many people are suffering from starvation

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