The only violence I condone is eating the rich.
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And here I thought I'd come in and struggle to convince people it wasn't just conservatives itching for a new civil war.
If the blue collar conservatives would only figure out the rich do not have there best interests at heart there wouldn’t be a war. This is class warfare but most just don’t realize it yet.
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What a stupid question.
Undoubtedly, violence would solve America's divisions- but is it the best way to do so? The real questions are, how long would that take, who would ultimately be the losers, and would it even be "America" when it all ends?
violence
The favorite action of the, Make America Go Away, crowd.
Spreading Managed Democracy, one liberation round at a time!
The Congressional Republicans and their Fox News swallowing ilk, who have all decided they love Russia so much, should simply move there.
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The only battle we are currently fighting is rich vs poor and we are loosing badly. All the other culture war issues are a farce.
Republicans trying to ruin the lives of half the population is not a "farce" and I'm insulted you'd simplify your argument to this level. There can be multiple things happening at once.
It's a farce they put on specifically to distract their base from the war on the poor.
For some republicans in positions of power? Sure. But not for their voter base.
You're missing the fact that all those people are beholden to the rich and powerful and have only done their bidding for the last 80 years.
Sure, Republicans are fuckin horrible. But they're this way by the design of the rich who really run things.
Republicans are horrible because of their core beliefs. That there is not good and bad, but strong and weak. That (paraphrasing a wise internet man here) "there are in-groups that the law must protect but not bind, and out-groups that the law must bind but not protect." That they're always right, and that others are always wrong. Rich people use this, but they cannot create it alone.
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Unironically yes, sufficient levels of violence will solve US divisions.
Anyone that thinks that they genuinely want this though has never lived in a country going through a civil war.
If anything happens it won't be a civil war. There is no good geological line to use as a point to start. It will be much more akin to the Troubles of Northern Ireland. Which may be honestly worse.
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Or they lack a shred of empathy and/or imagination.
I've never lived in a country going through civil war, but I don't have to do that to tell you that it's not something I want ever.
Yeah, the ammo box is literally the fourth box of democracy after the soap box, the ballot box, and the jury box, but it's only to be used when the other three have failed
At the end of the day, might makes right, so we better make damn well sure the side we believe in has more of it
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That figure is probably higher if we talk about gutting rich people. We might even get unity on that instead of divisiveness. I get a MAGA republican in the same room as a democrat and we start talking about wasting rich people, they often start acting like friends.
I'm hoping we can realize who our common enemies are so that we don't get into a civil war.
I feel bad for conservatives. In the, odds are stacked against you, kind of way.
They Would rather hand over their country to billionaires than share it.
They Would rather vote to give socialism and more hand overs to those billionaires, while destroying the middle class which actually made america great. They are Destroying the American Dream they claim to be Saving.
Actually fuck them conservatives. Easy to fool idiots helping Russia and China and Saudi Arabia.
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12% of dems and 28% of republicans… that says something
To be fair, the question was "do you think violence is necessary for the US to get back on track"
Make America Great Again is the Republican line, so of course the poll is going to lean this way.
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Every one of those people imagines the violence happening to groups they don’t like, and not to them and the groups they like. Always remember, both sides thought the civil war would be over in one battle.
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Fascists fundamentally support political violence as a method for "solving division". Anyone who is not a fascist and supports such violence at this moment needs to understand that political violence is going to backfire and play into the fascist's hands unless you can first build alternative systems of power and support outside of the government.
If you start violence without that network of support in place, you will disrupt people's lives, and the only support structure that can help will be the current Government. The military will be the ones providing food, medicine, and shelter. If you don't have a strategy to get regular people affected by the disruption food, water, healthcare and shelter, you're going to make the government the hero.
If you're not a fascist, and believe political violence is necessary, your first step isn't violence, your first step is to take a page from The Black Panthers and starting a community breakfast program.
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They’re going to force us to fight them again, aren’t they.
I've been saying it for years, war is coming. Best get prepared
When somebody tells you who they are it's best you believe them.
They've been telling us who they are for decades, and who they are is the unburied remnant of the Confederacy coming back for round 2, because Grant didn't let Sherman finish the job.
And they already have all the guns they need. This is why gun ownership is growing fastest among Black people, Latinos, and Trans people. I remember this when any gun control ideas come up, because anything you're trying to ban is already in the hands of most of the fascists. I'm fine with gun control, but not poorly implimented restrictions that mostly effect the populations trying to defend themselves. The most dangerous people bought their guns decades ago. They'll pass them down to their kids too.
I tell all of my liberal friends that it doesn't matter whether they approve of the practice or not. Own guns or don't, idc, but you better take some classes in how to use them.
In a country with more guns that people refusing to learn how they work is irresponsible. Knowing how they work and gun safety, and how to make a gun safe, is necessery otherwise in any situation with guns you have all the context that deer has on an interstate. We can do better we can learn and give ourselves the information necessary to make the best available decisions.
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For some, the war already started.
Violence meaning guillotines
Oh no, the country founded by 1%ers who don't want to pat taxes, and built on I disk burial grounds, is full of crazy violent assholes?
I'm shocked!
We aren't Russia (yet), so we must keep trying to facilitate the change we so desperately need.
Imo. That would be switching away from first past the post voting in favor of an alternative voting system like Ranked Choice.
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I think those numbers are low. I think people were confused. While everyone knows them as indispensable vehicles of egalitarian social progress, guillotines are technically tools of violence.
If we mean the 1%ers? Yeah violence would start solving that issue.
Anyone who believes this should be put in a thunderdome and the rest of us can pay to watch
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I mean... If you got rid of one side of a division, there's no more division so they're not wrong. It's just not a cool way to solve the problem.
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