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I just realised that I have never seen or used it, neither crude oil of course, but there are more variants of it than this natural mineral that powers a lot of the world.

What led to you seeing or touching coal?

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[–] sarmale@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I used it at barbeques, other than that no

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[–] takeheart@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Went to a open cast lignite mining operation once. The scales are quite impressive. Once standing at the bottom of the pit vision of the surrounding landscape just fades and you feel a bit like in a wasteland of sorts.

open cast mine

I assume many people are familiar with hydrocarbon gas for cooking or heating. Coal can also be converted to liquid or gas fuel form chemically but the process is quite complex and usually not economical.

Then there's crude oil. Never been near it but its ubiquitous in its refined forms, just go to a gas station.

EDIT: the coal typically used for barbecue (charcoal) is made from wood and is different from the stuff mined from the earth. Many people seem to not know this.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

My wife's family are in mining. I've seen coal, coal mines, mine tailings, coke ovens, coke, coal trucks and coal trains, and I've driven mining roads on a family vacation. I have a little vial of Cominco coal as a souvenir.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes, I've seen it in train cars being hauled

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We bought a house with a small coal supply under the stairs. No idea what to do with it.

[–] Dieinahole@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago

I dabble with blacksmithing. I'd take it in a heartbeat

We burned coal for heat on the coldest of nights when we lived off grid on a ranch in the mountains of colorado. We only used it if we absolutely had to as its super stinky, dirty and gross. We would get maybe two or three big chunks a year that weighed maybe 1-2 lbs. You can go up into the mountains and see the huge mountains of coal from the mines that have shut down. There are also rows of of coke ovens in monument canyon (used in the 19th century to turn coal into smelting iron)

[–] Adalast@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

My father runs live steam engines.

[–] Lath@kbin.earth 3 points 7 months ago

Whoa! Deja Vu!

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Yes! I was on vacation in Colorado and one of the residents there used it to warm their cabin in a wood burning stove. It was pretty amazing actually. One small chunk would heat the entire house to a very hot temperature for hours at a time. I can see why it was a popular option back in the day.

[–] Nithanim@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago

We once had a very old house with a cellar that was not used and not built for living there in any way. So you had plain rock walls and it was pretty moist. I do not know why but there was a single basket of coal down there. So I have seen black coal but I have not touched it.

Crude oil I have seen too back in school. My teacher had a sample to be able to show it.

[–] TheSpermWhale@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I was a huge fan of steam engines when I was younger, so I used to go to heritage railways a lot as a child. Also when I had an LPG car, the place I used to go for fuel also sold coal

[–] MSugarhill@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what the English terms are, but we used Steinkohle (stone coal) for barbecue in the 80s and 90s,so I guess yes.

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[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I lived in a town built on top of a coal mine. You could just go outside and walk a few feet and find chunks of coal just laying around. I also loved by train tracks for a long time and trains full of coal would go by multiple times a day.

I have a bolo tie whose slide ornament is carved anthracite.

I've never shoveled coal.

[–] Sylver@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Oh yeah, filled up dump trucks of it. Every year in the fall my grandfather would order a ton (probably more like 10 tons) of coal and it was up to all of us to shovel it out and divide for everyone to use and share

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For a good bit of my teens, I lived in an active coal mining town. It was everywhere. People loved grabbing some and making "coal gardens", where you leave a few good sized chunks in water and let the minerals accumulate. Can be rather pretty.

Coal can also be used as a craft, not uncommon to find carved coal statues in tourist areas that have a history as a mining town.

[–] cheesymoonshadow@lemmings.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I looked up "coal garden" and it unlocked a memory from my childhood. I think my older sister had a science experiment type of toy that grew crystals like that.

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

They're not uncommon among the other "Crystal/Mineral Aquarium" experiments! They can grow some stunning structures over time, but moving them without damaging the growth can be a bit of an issue.

[–] QuantumBamboo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

Coal, I had my childhood home heated with a coal fire in winter. Crude oil I touched at an art exhibition. I also remember real creosote! Amazing smell.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 3 points 7 months ago

I visited a coal power plant when I was still a student in a university. It's like stony charcoals.

[–] Oiconomia@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah. I grew up near one of Germany's largest open-pit lignite mines. Had a tour of the mighty Bagger 293 as a kid and was allowed to touch some coal.

[–] Brick@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago

There are still folk using coal daily round here. In my family circle, the last house to move away from coal was just last year. UK. We have also burnt peat but I think that's completely banned now. Nope, still available but legislation is in the works.

No crude oil.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 7 months ago

I've handled many types of coal. Even made my own. The kind you get from the ground I've handled from visiting old western towns where instead of gold, they had coal and silver mines.

[–] TTimo@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Coal for heating at my grandma's place yeah. In the southern US, you can also see trains filled with the stuff going west along I-40.

[–] abcd@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

When growing up my Grandparents ordered coal for heating purposes in winter. They had big piles of it when the heating period started. There where huge chunks of maybe 50cm length and 30cm width. I guesstimate the whole pile to be around 10m^3. But keep in mind it’s not the most reliable source since this dates 30+ years back and the dimensions have been seen with a little kids eyes. It may be less.

My house I live in today is 100+ years old. There are still some pieces of coal in my basement.

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Yes, in 1989.

East Perth to Midland train yards on the footplate of the Flying Scotsman.

The fireman was shovelling coal into the firebox, and it was one of the most concentrated sources of heat I have seen in my life.

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This is my same answer from a very similar post 2 months ago (c:

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From here

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[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

Growing up my parents had a Jesus on the cross statue carved out of coal. Does that count?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

I can't remember a specific time if I've touched coal. I know I've done a geology course at one point, and visited various museums with large rock collections.

I've definitely seen coal in person protruding from the top of passing railcars... here's a picture of one I took in South Surrey earlier this month:

picture of coal train

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 2 points 7 months ago

It's a rock, you find it laying on the ground. Especially around railyards and mines.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago

Maybe, though I am not sure.

But I did hold a jar of crude oil when I was a kid.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

It's pretty easy to find along the river banks around here. It wouldn't burn if you tossed it in a fire though, not sure why (maybe it's waterlogged or something).

Saw a big chunk washed up on a beach.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Took a tour of an old/historic cooal mine once. There was still a seam in the wall. And they had some coal and stuff in the gift shop.

You might also see it if you see a blacksmith demonstration. (For example, Historic Fort Snelling, for any one near MSP airport looking for something to do.)

[–] thirdBreakfast@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yes, in a shallow tourist mine in Australia. Apparently coal starts to flake easily once it's been exposed to air for a bit, so they kept a big chunk in a large jar of water that you could take out and handle. It felt like a light wet rock.

The sample, and the coal at the workface of the mine was stereotypicaly black. We wore hats with lights on, and when we emerged back out to the daylight I had an overwhelming urge to speak in a Monty Python type Yorkshire accent and go home and have my back scrubbed clean of the coal dust by my swarthy tired looking wife while I sat in a tub in front of the fire in the kitchen and our urchins played in the street.

I don't want to give the impression I'm a big fossil fuel tourist, but I've also seen blobs of crude oil on beaches near Mediterranean sea oil terminals.

Sadly, I didn't try to set fire to them on either of these occasions, which I now regret.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 7 months ago

A gas station in a mining town I visited had little statues carved out of coal.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

My dad grew up in England in the 20s and 30s, and they always burned coal in their fireplaces (wood much harder to come by there). He always talked about how long it burned and was kind of nostalgic for it, even though we lived in southern California and he was a contractor, so we always had lots of wood from his jobs. When I was a teenager, he decided to get a big bag of it, and it really did make great fires, but it's messy and smells bad.

We also have a small lump in a little square box with our Christmas stuff that someone got as a novelty gag gift and we never threw it away.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 7 months ago

Yes. Hike up a mountain in Kentucky and it just sticks out occasionally.

[–] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yep. Visited the coal mines in northern PA as a little kid. Going underground was super cool.

[–] eugene171@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Tour Ed Mines represent!

I visited a former coal mine that's now a museum. If you take a tour, you get a small piece of coal to keep at the end.

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