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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I not only remember the cornucopia one, but I thought this was the reason I learned the word cornucopia when I was a kid. Most Mandela effect stuff is kind of silly to me, but this one just freaks me out.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I just checked some old clothes I've got from the 90s. No cornucopia. Wonder if it was on the packaging or ads or something

[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You probably learned cornucopia from thanksgiving, that's how I learned it. Also, google cornucopia and basically every image looks like the fruit of the loom logo but with the horn behind it. It's pretty obvious that people are so used to seeing the cornucopia imagery that when it's combined with the fruit of the loom logo their brains go "yeah that looks right" and just assume that it must've been that at some point.

Mandela effects are fun and I understand the appeal but anyone who takes them seriously is straight up just not using their critical thinking skills.

[–] clearleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Cornucopias were not a commonly seen thing in my region or most regions of the world. We have fruit bowls instead. In the 00s a lot of people had fake fruit in a big bowl just for decoration since it was such a trend. I saw fruit bowls a lot more than I ever saw cornucopias. But nobody talks about the missing bowl. I didn't even know what cornucopias were called for a long time. Funny thing is I thought they were called looms because when I was learning to read I got fixated on the text in logos and spent a long time staring at that one. I remember looking at my underwear tag while shitting and thinking "wtf is a loom? It must be that cone thing the fruit is coming out of." That's what makes it weird, the consistency of it plus the amount of people who have actual memories associated with the cornucopia.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

Mandela effect stuff used to be just weird and silly, but in the last 5 years or so the internet has become centralized enough that it is actually possible to scrub all records of something from history, especially if it's something innocuous. That makes it very difficult to trust the corporations when they say "no, our logo never looked like x" when they might be actively lying about it.

Maybe their machine learning determined that in 3-5 years cornucopias would be deemed a symbol of oppression so they removed it to get out ahead. Or maybe some rich assholes son who was gifted a job as head of marketing just inexplicably hates cornucopias and wanted to scour them from the company. Or maybe through sheer incompetence, no one properly documented the logo change and everyone who was in the company has since moved on, so now everyone is like "hey according to our official records it was never like that" and they stick to that out of sheer corporate stubbornness.

Point is, for whatever reason, companies now have the capability of gaslighting people about this. You can still look up their old patent history, but that's about it unless you randomly find old pictures that happen to contain it.

I still think most of the time it's just common misremembered things from childhood.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The wicker conch was there when I was a kid, 100%, but maybe it was regional?

Or maybe they realised getting rid of the conch would save them a million dollars in printing costs over five years (or whatever) and quietly removed it?

[–] karashta@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just so you know, that brown thing is called a cornucopia! Literally "horn of abundance" in Latin.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Growing up, I always referred to it, and always heard it referred to as, a horn o' plenty.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Your mom referred to something else as the horn o'plenty..

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

Or it wasn't and you're just mistaken. You can find vintage underwear and t shirts on ebay from fotl back in the 70's and 80's right now. It isn't there. Also, snopes.com deemed it false.

[–] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] snooggums@midwest.social 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This one is the perfect example because I also remember it having the cornucopia despite it never being there in the official product. I would bet that the memory comes from the brain mashing together similar looking artwork from Thanksgiving.

Note: a memory is still a memory even if it isn't accurate, because memories aren't perfect.

[–] watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago

That sounds plausible, but then why do I, in the Netherlands, have this too? We have no thanksgiving and no thanksgiving imagery.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So where did the association come from? There has to be something that caused us to all have that false memory. Tv show or movie maybe

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

So intense a mystery so immediately solved, thanks.

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago
[–] yoevli@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

This one is freaky, but it just comes from the strong cultural association between imagery of big ol' piles of produce and cornucopias. We expect one to be there so our brain tries to helpfully fill in the "gap" in our memory for us.

[–] MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Photoshop would make it real easy to fake a pic like this. No one knows where this image comes from, where or when it was taken, nothing. It's unverifiable.

[–] MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Sounds like something a shill for big cornicopia would say.

[–] DrOakfield@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's the weird thing.

In my country cornucopias have no cultural significance or association with piles of produce. Still, every time I have talked Mandela effects with friends and acquaintances and asked them to describe the logo for me (stores in my country would sometimes have imported t-shirts from Fruit of the Loom) they describe it as "a big pile of different fruit with that basket-thing behind", not even knowing a word for the object. When I tell them there is nothing behind the fruit pile, they are in total disbelief. Like many other commenters in this post, I remember asking my dad, after buying a pack of t-shirts, what that thing behind the fruit was, as I had never seen anything like that before in my life. I must check up with him someday if he still has any surviving t-shirts left, though I doubt it, since they were cheaply made and broke often. It's also the weirdest feeling, that the logo with the cornucopia in this post is identical to my memory of the logo, down to the smallest detail, and is exactly how all I have talked to have remembered it as well.

It's the same thing about the Monopoly mascot and his monocle. People try to explain it by saying that people conflate it with some Peanuts brand mascot, but in my country we have never had that brand in our stores nor any other brands with a mascot like that. Still, I am not as astounded that people in my country and myself remember him with a monocle, as there have been plenty of characters in movies, series and cartoons, foreign as well as domestic, that, when sporting a tailcoat and tophat, would always wear a monocle to match. The whole set is so broadly associated with aristocratism, that you would fill in the gap, so to say. Nobody in my country would say the same for a pile of fruit, unless it was a bowl we were talking about.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works -2 points 7 months ago

Why do people always do the weird thing of trying to be mysterious and not just say what country they're talking about? Like no one is going to track you down by knowing you're Latvian but they might say 'I'm also from there and can explain where you're mistaken...'

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I would swear my undergarments had the cornucopia logo when I was growing up. I actually remember the point in my life where I saw the logo without it and assumed they decided to modernize.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ditto, but I had a spooky event preceding that. A black robed guy wearing a wide brimmed hat (think Vatican Elite or something) walked into my uncle's bedroom when I was a kid and held up two white T-shirts from Fruit of the Loom on brightly colored plastic clothes hangers, and said:

"We're thinking about changing the logo, do you prefer this traditional one, or this modern one?"

And, me, being small child babu and scared out of my mind by having a tall, pale, black garment dressed figure in the room with round sunglasses went:

"Modern. It's the Year 2000 coming up, the new millennium. Everything has to change."

He laughed and thanked me for my time and then walked THROUGH THE WALL to leave, not through a door.

The next year, 9/11 happened, and everything changed. Still boils my brains.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

That kind of thing used to happen a lot.

[–] zerodawn@leaf.dance 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'll apologise now for the tiktok link, i know how much this place hates tiktok but here is a woman who did a deep dive and found evidence that the company actually changed their logo and tried to scrub the existence of the Cornucopia from the internet to distance themselves from Bad PR.

https://www.tiktok.com/@dimelifting/video/7311071477732838687

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I like this idea but it’s hard to believe that nobody can produce a pair of underwear or t-shirt from the 70s that they found in their basement/attic

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago

I've got one and ill show it soon but in the meantime buy my merch and donate!

That's how conspiracies work, right?

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not aware of what fruit of the loom is but tbh i think they should add it, the logo just doesn't look right without it (it's color palette improves the logo and makes it more square-ish)

[–] itsnotits@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

its* color palette improves

[–] LolaCat@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I’ve 100% seen the cornucopia version in the past. The only reasonable explanation I can think of is that perhaps people have used the fan-made one without realizing it? It’s a better explanation than parallel universes, at least ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Perhaps the more reasonable explanation is that you're misremembering.

[–] dmMeYourNudes@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All of us misremembering the same thing is weird though

[–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You read the post and it primed your brain to remember a certain way. Our brains are a shitty meatball just trying to get by. They get tricked in the same ways. Optical illusions are still illusions even though most people experience them in the same way.

[–] dmMeYourNudes@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nah

If you asked me yesterday to draw this logo would have put the cornucopia. The two options aren’t labeled you pick which one is correct and then come to find out you’re wrong.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago

You're really not understanding how good the brain is at tricking us, of course it feels like you'd have drawn it but your brain didn't think about it yesterday what you're doing is simulating what your best assumption is for how things would have happened using the current set of information.

They've done all sorts of studies on this and honestly it's terrorizing just thinking about it.

[–] LolaCat@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Are you suggesting that I'm the one at fault? How preposterous! /s

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I remember it because that is how I learned what a Cornucopia was. Asking my mother about it, after seeing it on white underwear, at a Zellers.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That's another Mandela effect.

Fruit of the Loom never produced underwear.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

More likely that your brain is just remember seeing cornucopias.

[–] shottymcb@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Who's downvoting this? Our brains are crap. You were primed to remember the cornucopia so you did. That's it. Y'all really think there's a vast conspiracy to convince you that Bernstein was spelled differently and some random logo was different? Consider that our stupid heads are literally full of stupid meat. We're barely smarter than a shit throwing baboon.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think someone is going through my history and downloading all my comments by 1, for one thing.

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