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Griffin received the first disqualification from office in over a century under a provision of the 14th Amendment written to prevent former Confederates from serving in government after the Civil War.
And yet Trump is eligible to run for office because...?
.. because we live in one of the worst timelines.
Couy was found guilty of trespassing, while Trump is only facing charges, no verdict yet.
Surely you know this by now, a verdict is not required to invoke the ammendment.
Sadly it seems the Supreme Court thinks otherwise for presidential candidates.
Sadly this is why the supreme court is ILLEGITIMATE!
Not from the US, so I could easily be wrong. My understanding is that due process still applies as per the 5th amendment. It would need to be shown beyond a reasonable doubt that he played a role in the insurrection and charged federally.
Section 3 would then be self-executing (I.e. with immediate effect), unless this disability to hold office was removed as outlined in that section. Of course, this presumes a sensible interpretation of the wording used, and not what SCOTUS added - unnecessarily requiring congress to act to both instate and remove the disability to hold office.
It didn't apply the last time we barred ppl from office.
trespassing isn't insurgency
My point is that he's not found guilty of that yet.
My point is that we can infer he participated in the insurgency without his direct conviction for insurgency. The trespassing conviction is strong enough evidence to make the inference.
But Trump's role was public and undeniable. No inference is needed. His participation was directly observed by anyone old enough to make a judgement.
"chosen one" or some other bullshit
If states could remove candidates from federal elections, there would never be a Democrat on a federal ballot in a red state ever again. Literally, never again. It's frustrating, but I actually think the court made a good call here.
Elaborate. How will the GOP present actual proof when Dems haven't ever done an insurrection?
Go.
First, have they ever presented good evidence of anything?
Second, who would they present it to? There's no governmental agency or regulatory body in charge of disqualifying for insurrection. The only precedent we have for this is Confederates trying to run for office after the civil war, but that precedent got botched.
10/10 condescending attitude tho
Which then destroys any legitimacy the GOP has and those states results can be discarded during certification. Which, ironically is what Trump wanted to have happen on January 6th.
States can, right now, just suspend elections and have the legislature or governor appoint people. But you don't see that happening for the same reason you wouldn't see red states ban every democratic candidate.
Griffin received the first disqualification from office in over a century under a provision of the 14th Amendment...
What a major accomplishment. He should be so proud. /s
Cowboys are my natural enemies. Everything else aside, just wearing that hat is enough for me to dislike you.