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That's because they're stupid, and don't grasp that they're on the hit list. This will become easier for them to understand when they either get swarmed by MAGA red hats, or get rounded up.
Or when the right to marriage or cohabitation is taken away and they can no longer share benefits.
Let's take it a step further. The list must remain populated - facism doesn't actually work to make things better, so it requires someone to blame. Everyone ends up on the list, eventually.
It gets extra fun when fellow citizens, in an effort to stay out of the crosshairs, will snitch on Unpatriotic Americans. Anyone among the MAGA faithful that are uneasy about this, should remain demonstrably Patriotic.
I think that reporting someone for being an Unpatriotic American would be far more effective than SWATing someone. Like if someone at work didn't appreciate a witty reply or something, they could just erase you, or at the very least get you permanently in the crosshairs.
There exists a subset of people who always believe they are part of the “in group.” Even when they get swarmed and locked up/beaten/disappeared they will hold to the “truth” that a mistake was made, and someone will soon realize and apologize.
Leopards, faces, etc. There are multiple instances of people cheering on their own abuse. E.g. the thousands of women who protested against women's right to vote. Often their reasons, like those given for homophobia, revolved around "traditional family values" and "the natural order".
Plus loyalty has not proven to be a guarantee of support from Trump or MAGA. Given how many Trump supporters are now in prison or other legal trouble, it's odd that anyone thinks they'll be the exception due to blind loyalty.
Remember this?
Gay Republican Dave Rubin Cancelled by Homophobic Right. Yawn.
Gay Republicans swoon over Donald Trump for hosting a gay wedding at Mar-a-Lago
... because they're too god damn stupid or willfully ignorant to realize Trump is only in it for the money and has no morals, ethics, or ideology beyond "How can Trump profit from this?"
Well, they're too, only in it for the money.
As a gay person, these people fill me with shame.
As a human, these people fill me with shame.
As a meat popsicle, these people fill me with shame.
Same.
Wtf is a gay republican. It's just as dumb as black republicans. Like what do you even stand for? Losing your rights and fighting to become a slave?
lots of folks get off on self hatred.
There is a Jewish woman who is openly running as a Nazi on the Republican ticket for a statewide office in MA.
I need to look this up! What's her name?
So how do we use this to lose him the homophobe vote? That's gotta be more votes lost than gained.
“Oh, honey, I understand your concern but… well, god uses imperfect men to enact his will. See, Joe Biden is actively calling for these people to have rights. Trump ain’t perfect, but he already banned them trans people from being in the military. Joe put them right back in there.
See, Trump isn’t perfect. He’s a sinner. He’s doing more Jesus work than Biden though. With Trump we’ll have a pure and godly nation again one day if it isn’t already too late.”
He won’t lose the homophobe vote.
I don't understand their use of the term "log cabin". Is there something gay about log cabins?
It's meant to be a call back to the days of "Lincoln Republicans" - when President Lincoln built much of his reputation on a true "rags to power" story after being born in a literal log cabin in Kentucky. Lincoln Republicans coalesced around Lincoln's belief in true equality and freedom for all regardless of race. The LCR is an extension of that and arose during a fight against anti-LGBT laws in California in the 1970s.
However I'd argue that the rest of the GOP has fallen so far down the rabbit hole these days that the LCR's are "in name only" supporters of gay rights and have no reason to exist as an organization.
Lincoln’s sexuality is of some debate.
That's an interesting article I hadn't seen, thanks. And while I doubt anyone would be able to say definitively one way or the other at this point, from that article it sounds like the evidence that he was homosexual or bi is...pretty thin. At best.
Pandering
John Sullivan is vice chair and treasurer of the Tennessee Log Cabin Republicans.
But of course.
Being gay doesn't make you ... well, anything except gay. Perhaps a larger percentage of them are liberals though due to obviously selfish reasons.
Being gay and Republican makes you an idiot. Republicans fought tooth and nail to oppose gay marriage and used all sorts of awful dog whistles around the gay community - there's still a large contingent of Republicans that are fighting against gay marriage and, of course, they openly demonize another LGBT+ group every fucking day.
I know gay Republicans exist but it's fucking baffling.
Like the anti vaccine movement, many have forgotten the horrors of the past and feel like they can just discard the things that got us to where we are.
Just like how fascism is back. Generations die off, and (particularly if we don't educate), people forget.
Yeah, it seems pretty a bit off. Perhaps those people have lots of old money or something, enabling them to just completely ignore haters?
That'd be the Peter Thiel approach... you know, the famous scumbag gay man who famously lobbied against gay marriage.
Selfish reasons like wanting to be treated like human beings politically? Get married? Adopt kids? Get wedding cakes at bakeries without being shut out? Those kind of selfish reasons?
Oh, sorry. I didn't mean selfish in a negative way. Is there a better word?
Selfish had a negative connotation... But voting in your self interest is likely what you meant and shouldn't have any such connotation.
Are they only liberal because of the issues that directly impact them?
I’m not gay.
I’m not buying wedding cakes.
I’m not adopting.
CIS WASPs already own politics.
Yet here I am, liberal.
It is possible to care about other people and their problems without those problems being yours as well.
You likely mean “reasons of self interest” instead of “selfish reasons,” since you don’t appear to mean the statement with negative connotations.
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It was a business decision, nothing more. The only motive was profit. There’s absolutely nothing to “swoon” over.
All six of them?