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It's incredible how much the prices have fallen and that's how it should be. Sure, I bought the 960 close to launch but still the difference is staggering.

The 960 Evo still chugs along albeit it's a new one because a few months after I bought it, I had to RMA it. I guess that's what happens when you are an early adopter. I lost a few hours of work when the original 960 Evo decided to stop working but it also taught me to be more paranoia with backups.

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[–] jafo@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago (17 children)

You young fellas sit back, I'mma tell you about the time in '96 that I bought a 1GB hard drive for a thousand doll-hairs. And then later that year got 64MB of RAM for another thousand doll-hairs, and the next month the price dropped in half. I could run two java programs AT THE SAME TIME!

[–] Stabbitha@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Our first family computer they offered to double the HDD space to 20mb for an extra $500. "You'll never fill it up!" they claimed. My dad, being a practical guy, couldn't figure out why he would want to pay extra for something he'd never use.

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

No joke though, in the 90s you could buy a HDD with a size advertised on the box and get it home to find that the drive was actually bigger than advertised. They were making advances so fast in the manufacturing that they literally didn't have the time (or it wasn't worth the cost) to keep up with updating the boxes.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My father went a bit nuts and bought our first family computer some time around '85. It was an 8088 Turbo XT with a 10MB hard drive. It was something like a $3,000 computer (which would be similar to $8,500 today, with inflation). That hard drive was so big, we thought we'd never fill it. The biggest game we had at the time, Star Flight took up two 360KB floppies, and both my brother and I could each have our own copies on the hard drive, without worrying about space. It was amazing.

But, tech moves on and what was once "bleeding edge" becomes old hat. I'm pretty sure there are calculators which can emulate that entire 8088. And, 10MB is a rounding error on modern drives. I also have little doubt that, 40 years from now we'll look back at 1TB hard drives and think "oh, how quaint".

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 70 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For over a decade I've been waiting for HDD prices to fall to 10 € per TB. Guess I'll see that in SSDs first.

[–] Nahaelem@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yup, there’s a Linustech tip video about this. HDD prices have kinda been set in stone for a good while now

[–] sheepyowl@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Couldn't find it within 5 minutes of searching - therefor I accounce that such a video does not exist

[–] Nahaelem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let me see if I can find it. LMG pumps out tons of videos

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[–] max_adam@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, maybe HDD can hardly get any more cheaper as there is little to non room for improvement while SSD can get higher NAND transistors density.

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[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We're very close. 30TB HAMR drives are expected later this year, and 50TB a year or two later. I think HDDs will continue to present the best value for data hoarders.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

For NAS purposes that'd be delicious.

[–] JATtho@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until you would have to replace a HDD: +23 hours of nerve racking RAID repair time for 10TB drive at 120MB/s Even with some advanced (like ZFS etc.) system you can't go around the fact the HDDs are slow.

And when the HDD fails, you can't read it. It's toast. Some cheap non-volatile memory devices are like this too, but good ones go into read-only mode and you can at least attempt data recovery from them if no better option is left.

I'm liking that it is possible get cheap+good 1TB NVMe devices for less than 100€. The consumer SATA market for large SSDs (capacity over 1TB) is unfortunately quite dry. I need replacement for HDDs and even if the speed is capped by SATA bus it would be an massive improvement.

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[–] ItsWizardTime@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is how hardware should work! Overtime what was bleeding edge is now the norm and as such should be priced accordingly..... Looking at you Nvidia

[–] LeberechtReinhold@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

nVidia GPUs:

970GTX was 329$ in 2014

1070GTX was 379$ in 2016

2070RTX was 499$ in 2018

3070RTX was 499$ in 2020

4070RTX is 599$ in 2023

Probably, the 5070 in 2025-6 will be 650-700.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Lol a 4070 in Canada is $1200.

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[–] Bobert@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago (7 children)

$109 for an 840 EVO 250 GB in November 2014. Still rocking it to this day. Was absolutely thrilled to get it then. People don't fully grasp the paradigm shift that SSDs brought in terms of boot times. For practically the first time in personal computing the average user had a quantifiable metric to judge a PC's speed. It's arguably the largest leap in terms of technology advancement to speed advancement in PCs.

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[–] snowfalldreamland@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just today I was wondering why I only have a 500GB sata ssd in my Laptop and then I realized that I bought it in 2018 and the price difference was just not worth it at the time. Nowadays it feels like one might as well get a 2TB nvme. If prices keep falling like this soon a 4x4TB nvme NAS will be positively cheap!

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[–] oshu@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My first job was in a computer store in 1994 and a 4MB stick of RAM for a PC was $140.

[–] WiseassWolfOfYoitsu@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Those were very important 4MB RAM sticks, you needed at least 4MB and recommended 8MB of RAM to play the just released Doom!

[–] mr_yuk@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's about time. SSD prices stagnated for years!

Here are my purchases over the past years:

  • 2015 - Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SATA - $164
  • 2016 - Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2 SATA - $168
  • 2016 - Samsung 850 EVO 1TB M.2 SATA - $262
  • 2017 - Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SATA - $198 ($30 more than 2 yrs prior)
  • 2019 - Samsung 860 EVO 1TB SATA - $160 (finally a decent price on 1TB even though it was SATA)
  • 2020 - Samsung 870 EVO+ 2TB NVME - $270
  • 2022 - Samsung 870 EVO+ 2TB NVME - $204
  • 2022 - Samsung 870 EVO 4TB SATA - $396

Today the Samsung 970 EVO+ NVME 2TB is $109. The 870 EVO 4TB SATA is $170. Each about half the price as one year ago.

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[–] Clothing8727@lemmy.tuxprint.com 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's wild how cheap SSDs and ram are right now. It's so tempting to upgrade both on my main PC.

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[–] DrManhattan@lemmy.design 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's amazing seeing 2TB M.2 NVME drives being sold for less than what I bought my original 120GB SATA SSD for.

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[–] Cotillion189@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I bought 4TB Crucial ssd, MX500 for 87€, brand new. It was on huge sale. And 2y ago i paid almost 60€ for 512 gb same model... so yeah

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

You should note that the 960 is the one where Samsung got caught swapping in sub par bad performance parts into the same name. That's part why it got THAT cheap rather than it being a natural evolution.

[–] rambos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Good to see the prices are going down when everything else is getting crazzy expensive.

I bought some SSD in 2019 worth of 290$ and payed with 0.5 ethereum. That would be 900+$ today kekw

[–] deranjer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Don't worry guys, manufacturer's are doing their best to cut supply to raise prices again. Gotta love them.

[–] speaker_hat@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deflation is beautiful, send more of those

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's only deflated because our storage needs have vastly inflated! This is like 6 AAA games and maybe a couple movies

[–] LetMeEatCake@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How many AAA games do you keep installed at the same time? I max out at maybe three, personally. Realistically I'd be more than content with just two: current game + next game.

[–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like to be able to just pick a random game and start playing, so I always have 100+ games installed.

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[–] 00Sixty7@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I plan on building a new desktop sometime around black friday. Here's hoping we'll get some great deals like this then, too?

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't wait for black Friday, get the parts in pieces as you find them on sale.

Black Friday is when companies dump subpar parts to low prices just to get rid of them. Don't bank it all on that sale.

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[–] QuazarOmega@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Amazing to see!
By this point do USB sticks make sense anymore as opposed to a super fast SSD inside an enclosure? It seems like the former hasn't seen any technical progress in years either

[–] NiTRo_SvK@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I usually have one USB stick tied to my keys, just in case. I can't imagine carrying an enclosed SSD everywhere with me.

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Side note, join us at !buildapcsales@lemmy.ml for deals like this. We could use more folks in the growing community!

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[–] nvm@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Even internal hard drives are falling in price every few months. A WD Red Pro 18 TB is cheaper than a 16TB two months ago. I guess the strategy is to wait until the last moment before you buy storage now.

[–] thorcik@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My first SSD was a 128 GB OCz Vertex3. Price comparable to the 2600K I bought it with.

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[–] dunestorm@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure Apple still charges £300 😂

[–] SmallAlmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

I wonder then, if for low capacity NAS home systems using these consumer drives is a good idea. Drives certified with "NAS reliabilty", ssd or hdd, are still as expensive as they have always been, is it a ripoff?

[–] vladmech@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm picking up a 2TB 980 Pro for $99 on Prime Day today, it's ridiculous and wild.

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