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This is a projection in Oakland. You can find the original art here.

The way-back machine found a March 2023 Reddit post by Aaron Bushnell where he said, “I’ve realized that a lot of the difference between me and my less radical friends is that they are less capable of imagining a better world than I am. I follow YouTubers like Andrewism that fill my head with concrete images of free, post-scarcity communities, and it makes me so much more prepared to reject things about the current world, because I’ve imagined how things could be and that helps me see how extremely bullshit things are right now.”

If you care to see the full quote, you can check @tinythunders on Twitter or Andrewism’s YouTube Channel, the community tab.

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He made the ultimate sacrifice for what he believed, and I hope we never stop talking about him.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think a lot of news sites have already moved on

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Most news sites moved on before it happened. They would never talk about it because it's bad for them. They aren't a reason he shouldn't be talked about everywhere else.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -2 points 8 months ago

moved on before it happened

Uhhm

They aren’t a reason he shouldn’t be talked about everywhere else.

I just meant that since news sites affect the general discourse so much, I'm not feeling too optimistic about the topic being talked about. People are so quick to move on to new topics these days.

[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 48 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Tbh they should use the actual video and play it on repeat with sound. Do that. Do that for him.

Tbh, idk even know much about the Israel Gaza thing... So I can't speak to that. But the comment about the ruling class making what we see the world as today the new normal... That hit me. We are nothing but slaves for others power and greed. And I think that's a truth that people try to escape from by consumerism and drugs.

The average citizen should be forced to watch the horrors and morbid deaths of war that they pay to manifest.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If we should have to watch it, it should be beamed in to the fucking brains of the rich and powerful. They should personally feel every civilian death.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Imagine the absolute utopia we would live in if every person would feel the pain of others.

[–] kugel7c@feddit.de 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Altruizine" – a substance that allows individuals within a limited area to completely share all feelings and emotions, including both pain and joy. The idea behind Altruizine is that people who feel each other's pain as their own should treat each other as they would themselves. Altruizine. Klapaucius produces a large quantity of the substance and sends the above mentioned hermit (who is eager to help others) in human guise to experiment on the population of a single planet. Some of the results include villagers feeling the birth pains of a cow, depressed people being violently attacked and driven off and a crowd storming the house of the newlyweds to vicariously participate in their unaccustomed sensations. Eventually, the hermit is identified for a robot (because he does not feel the humans' pain), is thoroughly beaten and tortured, then shot into outer space via a cannon. He then lands near Trurl's house, where the story began. Concluding his tale, the hermit assures Trurl that his thirst for altruism has vanished. src

This is the somewhat harrowing conclusion Mr lem comes to in the cyberiad when confronting this same issue in one of the short stories.

Not to say anything against the sentiment, I largely agree just found it noteworthy. Especially if you've never heard of them give them a read/listen.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like an interesting read, thank you

I did deliberately only share pain for my thought experiment, and also imagined it on a global scale. That would alleviate some of the issues, but possibly not all of them depending on how it would work in effect, and also introduce some of its own. For example if everyone always felt everyone’s suffering and perhaps even deaths the whole planet would go through thousands of deaths every day, effectively stunning everyone into a constant death experience. And if death was not felt but suffering was, people might still end up killing each other.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 8 months ago

I wonder how it might be if any pain you inflicted on others, you also recieved yourself. That might iron out some of those kinks.

[–] hoodles@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago

This is the first Cyberiad reference I've seen in the wild. Such a great book

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

A fictitious story that assumes peoples' behavior against those they cannot feel being inexplicable violence in no way what so ever reflects on rational reality in any way.

People already don't feel others' pain and most see the benefit in not mistreating other things, let alone other people.

Also, why the flying fuck would people break in to feel something vicariously that they were already directly feeling via the drug's effects?? That short story is illogical even within its own universe.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

yeah that story just reeks of "oooo look how smart i am, people bad!"

fuck off with that shit, humans are pathologically empathic and will risk their own lives to save wild animals

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

This is the ultimate conclusion of the Hyperion Cantos.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

Tbh, idk even know much about the Israel Gaza thing… So I can’t speak to that.

If you are interested, there's a new video from Shaun making the rounds that explains the situation in depth.

https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=3xottY-7m3k

[–] Five 40 points 8 months ago
[–] Five 35 points 8 months ago
[–] AEMarling 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] AEMarling 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They suspended his account? That's ... so incredibly heartless and sad. Thank you for these links.

[–] RedditMobileMyAss@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Glad I’ve cut my visits to that cesspool site by 99 percent. This will kick it to 100.

Yep, this is low, even for them

[–] Five 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's more complicated than that (but not much) - pro-genocide trolls are mass-flagging Aaron's alleged account's comments and posts, probably causing Reddit's automated spam measures to suspend the account. Reddit is just okay with their good moderators gone and the automated system they now rely on almost entirely gamed and abused. They may also be politically unmotivated to fix it in this case.

Source

As someone who was permabanned from reddit for "abusing the report button" by reporting transphobia, I'm not confident this is just the result of an automated system.

[–] Five 22 points 8 months ago
[–] wildcherry 14 points 8 months ago

RIP buddy. The struggle can be tough at time. Do we have a community for mutual aid and support? Anybody can reach out to me if needed. Stay safe out there.

[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That building is perfect for projecting things on it.

[–] AEMarling 5 points 8 months ago

Yes. It is called the Great Wall of Oakland. People dance on it too: Bandaloop.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Could use a little design work.